338: What Equity is and How Enable it at Your Organization with Celeste Warren
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In this episode of *Allyship in Action*, host Julie welcomes back Celeste Warren, a globally recognized DEI thought leader and former Fortune 100 chief DEI officer, to discuss the often-misunderstood concept of equity. Celeste unpacks the distinctions between diversity, inclusion, and equity, emphasizing that equity is about meeting people where they are by providing tailored resources to overcome systemic barriers. She uses the powerful metaphor of people standing behind a fence—some can see over it, others cannot—illustrating how equity isn’t about giving everyone the same thing, but about giving people what they need to succeed. The conversation dives into why resistance to equity stems from fear of being left behind, misunderstanding of privilege, and discomfort with confronting systemic isms. Celeste outlines practical, systemic fixes across the employee lifecycle—from recruitment and hiring to performance management and succession planning—arguing that transparent, equitable systems benefit everyone, not just marginalized groups. She warns that failing to modernize these systems risks losing Gen Z and Gen Alpha talent, who demand clarity, fairness, and purpose. The episode concludes with a call to action: reimagining organizational systems not as obstacles, but as engines of collective success.
Equity means providing people with what they need to succeed, not treating everyone the same—especially when starting points differ.
Systemic barriers (the 'fence') prevent many from seeing or accessing opportunities; equity removes these barriers without taking anything from those who already have access.
Transparent, structured processes in hiring, performance reviews, and succession planning reduce bias and build trust across teams.
Gen Z and Gen Alpha employees expect fairness and clarity—organizations that fail to deliver will face talent shortages.
Fixing systems is not slow—it removes friction and improves performance for everyone.
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Introduction to Equity and Celeste Warren
Julie introduces Celeste Warren, a globally recognized DEI expert and author of *The Truth About Equity*, highlighting her background as a former Fortune 100 vice president and chief DEI officer.
Defining Equity: Beyond Diversity and Inclusion
“Equity comes in when you're with all of those people, knowing that they came from different starting points... you do that through acts of equity, giving them what they need to have access to opportunities.”
Why Equity Feels Threatening: Fear, Privilege, and the 'Fence' Analogy
“They're not being left behind because nothing was taken away from you. We've just simply given others access, but they don't see that.”
Systemic Fixes: From Hiring to Succession Planning
“You can't stand still because there's a big cost. And we have to look at the systems to make sure that they are moving forward, that they are pliable, that they're agile.”
The Future of Work: Gen Z, Equity, and Organizational Survival
“It's better for you, it's better for me if we all know the objective criteria of how we're going to be evaluated.”
“They're not being left behind because nothing was taken away from you. We've just simply given others access, but they don't see that.”
“If you don't understand people, the essence of people, you can't succeed. You just can't succeed.”
“Equity comes in when you're with all of those people, knowing that they came from different starting points... you do that through acts of equity, giving them what they need to have access to opportunities.”
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Celeste Warren
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Julie
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The Truth About Equity
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Generation Z
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Generation Alpha
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Deloitte
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TED Talk
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Destination STEM
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Fortune 100
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Celeste Warren Consulting
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