Cancer, food, biolabs, ‘You don’t know what you don’t know’ Q&A 193

AMERICA OUT LOUD PODCAST NETWORK57mApril 23, 2026

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In this episode of America Out Loud Pulse, host Malcolm Out Loud and epidemiologist Nick Holscher delve into the growing global concern over high-containment biolabs, particularly their vulnerability to power outages, physical damage, and potential weaponization. Holscher reveals that over 3,600 such labs exist worldwide, with nearly half in the U.S., and warns that many operate with undisclosed pathogens, creating a ticking time bomb—especially in conflict zones like Iran and Ukraine. The discussion underscores the catastrophic risk of containment failure, with pathogens like pneumonic plague or synthetic organisms potentially escaping and triggering pandemics more devastating than nuclear attacks. The episode also shifts to alternative cancer treatments, spotlighting a groundbreaking observational study showing 84.4% of 200 cancer patients experienced benefits from ivermectin and mibendazole, with 36% showing no evidence of disease. Host and guest express deep skepticism toward conventional chemotherapy and radiation, citing their high toxicity and low clinical benefit ratios, and advocate for safer, evidence-backed alternatives like high-dose IV vitamin C and the wellness product 'Shield.' The conversation further critiques flu vaccines, citing studies showing increased infection risk and immune dysregulation, and raises alarms about mRNA vaccines being administered to livestock and farmed fish, questioning the long-term health implications of consuming such products. Throughout, the theme of 'you don’t know what you don’t know' underscores a broader call for transparency, personal responsibility, and vigilance in health and national security.

Key Takeaways
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Over 3,600 high-containment biolabs exist globally, with nearly half in the U.S., many operating with undisclosed or modified pathogens.

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A loss of power or physical damage to biolabs—especially in conflict zones—could lead to catastrophic containment failure and pandemic-level outbreaks.

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An observational study of 200 cancer patients found 84.4% reported benefits from ivermectin and mibendazole, with 36% showing no evidence of disease.

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Chemotherapy and radiation have low clinical benefit ratios (as low as 10%) and cause severe organ damage, prompting calls for safer alternatives.

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Flu vaccines may increase infection risk and trigger immune dysregulation; natural immune support (e.g., vitamin D, bovine colostrum) is a safer alternative.

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Chapters
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10 min

The Global Biolab Crisis: A Ticking Time Bomb

A pathogen could do more damage than any missile ever could unless it was nuclear. It could even do more damage though than a nuclear detonation.

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10:00
10 min

The 84.4% Cancer Remission Study: Ivermectin and Mibendazole

84.4% of them reported to have benefited in their cancer. That's a giant percent, massive proportion.

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20:00
10 min

The Fallacy of Chemotherapy: When the Cure Is Worse Than the Disease

The cancer was gone. Nick, if you can believe that, that's what's the message the doctor said, but they were on now a machine to breathe and the lungs were gone and she had hours left to live.

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30:00
10 min

The Flu Vaccine Dilemma: Risk, Ineffectiveness, and Immune Disruption

The hosts challenge the efficacy and safety of flu vaccines, citing studies showing increased infection risk and immune dysregulation. They highlight the Cleveland Clinic study showing a 27% higher flu risk among vaccinated healthcare workers and advocate for natural immune support like vitamin D and bovine colostrum.

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10 min

Vaccinating the Food Supply: mRNA in Livestock and Fish

Holscher reveals that pigs, dogs, cats, and farmed fish are already being vaccinated with mRNA-based or gene-based vaccines. The hosts express alarm over the potential for these materials to enter the human food chain, urging listeners to opt for wild-caught fish and homegrown food to reduce exposure.

High-Impact Quotes
A pathogen could do more damage than any missile ever could unless it was nuclear. It could even do more damage though than a nuclear detonation.
Nick Holscher10:40
Viral: 90.0
The cancer was gone. Nick, if you can believe that, that's what's the message the doctor said, but they were on now a machine to breathe and the lungs were gone and she had hours left to live.
Malcolm Out Loud30:59
Viral: 88.0
84.4% of them reported to have benefited in their cancer. That's a giant percent, massive proportion.
Nick Holscher27:40
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Malcolm Out Loud

Guest

Nick Holscher
Topics Discussed
biolabs and pandemic risk95%alternative cancer treatments90%critique of conventional chemotherapy88%mRNA vaccines in livestock and fish85%flu vaccine safety and efficacy80%personal responsibility in health78%immune system health and natural support75%food safety and transparency70%
People & Brands

Nick Holscher

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45xPositive

Malcolm Out Loud

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38xPositive

United States

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18xMixed

Dr. Peter McCullough

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15xPositive

Iran

place

14xNegative

Ivermectin

product

12xPositive

Dr. Kelly Victory

person

12xPositive

Ukraine

place

10xNegative

The Wellness Company

organization

10xPositive

Mibendazole

product

10xPositive

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