Trump Should go ‘Full Lincoln’ on the Democratic Party. Pope Leo, Tucker Carlson, Islam, Open Borders etc… Eric Metaxas Talks to John Zmirak

American Conservative University47mApril 20, 2026

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In this provocative episode of *American Conservative University*, Eric Metaxas and guest John Zmirak engage in a fiery, satirical, and ideologically charged discussion on the state of American conservatism, the Catholic Church, and the perceived radicalization of the Democratic Party. Drawing parallels between Abraham Lincoln’s wartime actions and a call for modern conservatives to 'go full Lincoln'—including suspending habeas corpus and arresting political opponents—Metaxas and Zmirak argue that the Democratic Party has become a totalitarian, anti-patriotic force akin to the Nazis and communists in Weimar Germany. They accuse the current Pope of being a left-wing Chicago radical influenced by figures like David Axelrod, and claim the Catholic Church in America has been corrupted by globalist elites, federal funding, and complicity in immigration smuggling. The hosts also condemn organizations like Catholic Charities and the Southern Baptist Convention for allegedly serving as fronts for progressive agendas, while celebrating the historical influence of George Whitefield and the Great Awakening in shaping American identity and the Constitution. Amid the chaos, they advocate for a return to natural law, Christian morality, and a rejection of secularism, all while using dark humor and hyperbole to underscore their alarm over cultural and political collapse.

Key Takeaways
1

The Democratic Party should be treated as a national security threat akin to the Confederacy, warranting strong executive action like Lincoln’s suspension of habeas corpus.

2

The Catholic Church in America has been captured by a 'left-wing gay cabal' and is complicit in immigration abuse and corruption, funded by federal grants.

3

The Pope’s pacifist stance on war undermines the Church’s moral authority and aligns with a utopian, anti-nationalist ideology.

4

Christian morality must inform public law through natural law, not theological dogma, to prevent tyranny and preserve the Republic.

5

Conservatives must fight internal enemies—Republican 'traitors' like Cornyn and Thune—more than external ones to save the nation.

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Chapters
0:00
10 min

Lincoln as Precedent: The Democratic Party as Internal Enemy

The Democratic Party is a radical extremist party that got to be really big. And we've seen that before, like the Nazis and the communists in Weimar Germany.

Highlight
10:00
10 min

The Pope and the Church: A Leftist Takeover

The Pope met with David Axelrod. Imagine if Pope Benedict XVI had met with Roger Stone. People would have been screaming.

Highlight
20:00
10 min

Catholic Church Corruption: Money, Immigration, and Cover-ups

450,000 young Mexican, Guatemalan, Honduran kids disappeared in the Biden years. No one knows what became of them.

Highlight
30:00
10 min

The Great Awakening: George Whitefield and the Birth of America

A shift to a more hopeful tone as the hosts celebrate George Whitefield’s role in uniting the colonies, inspiring the Constitutional Convention, and laying the moral foundation for American independence.

40:00
10 min

The Culture War: Natural Law, Morality, and the Fight for the Republic

The episode closes with a philosophical defense of natural law and Christian morality as the basis for law, rejecting both secularism and theocracy, while warning against the moral decay of progressive ideologies.

High-Impact Quotes
The Democratic Party is a radical extremist party that got to be really big. And we've seen that before, like the Nazis and the communists in Weimar Germany.
John Zmirak35:40
Viral: 92.0
The Pope met with David Axelrod. Imagine if Pope Benedict XVI had met with Roger Stone. People would have been screaming.
Eric Metaxas29:15
Viral: 88.0
450,000 young Mexican, Guatemalan, Honduran kids disappeared in the Biden years. No one knows what became of them.
John Zmirak13:36
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Eric Metaxas

Guest

John Zmirak
Topics Discussed
Lincolnian Executive Power95%Democratic Party as Totalitarian Threat93%Catholic Church Corruption90%Natural Law and Christian Morality88%Pope and Globalist Elites87%Immigration and Human Trafficking85%Great Awakening and American Founding80%Cultural War and Identity Politics75%
People & Brands

Eric Metaxas

person

40xPositive

John Zmirak

person

35xPositive

Pope Leo

person

15xNegative

George Whitefield

person

12xPositive

Abraham Lincoln

person

12xPositive

Joe Biden

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8xNegative

Catholic Charities

organization

8xNegative

David Axelrod

person

6xNegative

Benjamin Franklin

person

6xPositive

Barack Obama

person

6xNegative

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