AWA407 - War Pigs Revisited
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This episode of the Ancient Warfare Podcast revisits the topic of 'War Pigs'—a term originally inspired by Black Sabbath's song and its connection to Roman military symbolism. The host explores the fascinating intersection between ancient Roman warfare imagery and modern pop culture, particularly the Marvel character War Pig from Guardians of the Galaxy 3. The discussion dives into the historical significance of the boar as a military standard in both Roman and Celtic traditions, referencing Pliny the Elder and Festus for evidence of five original legionary standards, including the boar as the fifth. The episode examines the symbolic weight of the boar versus the pig in Roman coinage and military iconography, noting that while the boar was a prominent martial symbol, its representation in coinage is less common than other animals. The host also reflects on how later Roman legions revived older symbols like the boar, suggesting deeper cultural or spiritual significance beyond mere hierarchy. The episode ends with a playful nod to potential future sequels, blending scholarly depth with lighthearted humor. Key takeaways include: the boar was a significant, non-derogatory military symbol in both Roman and Celtic warfare; the Roman military standard system evolved from five symbols to just the eagle under Marius; the boar’s position as the fifth standard may not indicate lesser importance but could reflect symbolic or ritual significance; modern pop culture (like Marvel) reinterprets ancient symbols in unexpected ways; and the enduring appeal of ancient warfare topics lies in their ability to inspire deep, interdisciplinary exploration.
The boar was a legitimate and respected military standard in Roman and Celtic warfare, not a pig or a lesser symbol.
Pliny the Elder and Festus both confirm the existence of five legionary standards, with the boar as the fifth, suggesting symbolic importance beyond hierarchy.
Despite being phased out under Marius, the boar was later revived by three Roman legions, indicating cultural or spiritual significance.
Roman coinage features the sow and boar, but the boar is more commonly associated with martial imagery than the pig.
Modern pop culture (e.g., Marvel’s War Pig) reinterprets ancient symbols, creating a fascinating bridge between antiquity and contemporary storytelling.
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Introduction and the Return of War Pigs
The host opens with a reflection on the consistent quality of the Ancient Warfare Podcast, introduces the revisited topic of 'War Pigs', and sets up the episode’s dual focus: ancient Roman military symbolism and its modern pop culture reinterpretation.
War Pig in Marvel: A Pop Culture Twist
“So it's a villain paired with Behemoth, who is a bird creature, which is not what a Behemoth is in ancient sort of ideology. So that's a peculiar mix.”
The Boar vs. Pig: Symbolism in Roman Coinage
“In Roman coinage there's a difference between a boar and a sow and there's peculiarities going on because there's coin types of Roman...”
The Five Standards and the Legacy of the Boar
“Why would these three legions choose the least important one? I think it's got other martial qualities to it, perhaps tied up with the Caledonian boar and Heracles...”
“Why would these three legions choose the least important one? I think it's got other martial qualities to it, perhaps tied up with the Caledonian boar and Heracles...”
“So it's a villain paired with Behemoth, who is a bird creature, which is not what a Behemoth is in ancient sort of ideology. So that's a peculiar mix.”
“In Roman coinage there's a difference between a boar and a sow and there's peculiarities going on because there's coin types of Roman...”
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Pliny the Elder
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Guardians of the Galaxy 3
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Marius
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Festus
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Polybius
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Wolf
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Horse
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