Hunting Forest Ghosts Across Transylvania, Spain, Macedonia, & Serbia
The episode dives deep into the unique world of European backcountry hunting, revealing that roe deer—often called the 'forest ghost'—are far more complex than their small size suggests. Host Joseph von Benedict and guest Landon Michaels uncover surprising truths: despite the .308 cartridge's popularity, faster, lighter bullets like the .22 Creedmoor with 80-grain ELDX projectiles delivered instant knockdowns on roe deer, while slower bullets in the same caliber often failed to stop animals quickly, even at under 200 yards. This challenges conventional wisdom about cartridge performance. Beyond ballistics, the episode explores a rich cultural tapestry—from the reverence of the Letstibissen tradition (placing a branch in a deer’s mouth as a final tribute) to the sophisticated, tiered pricing systems that reward hunters for taking mature animals rather than trophy-sized ones. Landon shares his astonishment at the sheer abundance of wildlife in Transylvania, where bears and wolves are not rare but common, and where outfitters manage populations through science-backed quotas. He also highlights the ease of travel across Europe with budget airlines like WizAir, the high quality of loaner rifles, and the welcoming nature of local communities—especially in Serbia and Macedonia—where hunters are treated like royalty.
Faster, lighter bullets like 80-grain .22 Creedmoor ELDX outperform traditional .308 loads on roe deer, delivering instant knockdowns due to rapid expansion.
Roe deer have a unique biological trait: they can delay fetal development for months and decide how many fawns to have based on seasonal conditions.
Europe uses a tiered pricing system where mature animals cost more, encouraging sustainable hunting and population management.
Most European outfitters provide high-quality loaner rifles—no need to bring your own, especially on multi-country trips.
The Letstibissen tradition of placing a branch in a deer’s mouth is a deeply reverent, widespread practice across Germany, Austria, and Eastern Europe.
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Why Europe Is Different for Hunters
Joseph sets the stage by highlighting the cultural and logistical differences of hunting in Europe, contrasting it with North American experiences. He introduces Landon Michaels as a guest with a podcast background and hunting expertise.
A Journey Through Iberia and Transylvania
Landon recounts his multi-country European trip, starting in Spain with roe deer and wild boar, then flying to Romania’s Transylvania—home to massive bears, wolves, and the legendary Dracula region.
The Roe Deer: Forest Ghost or Biological Marvel?
The hosts dive into the biology of roe deer—small, territorial, and capable of holding fetuses dormant for months. Their rut timing and population control mechanisms are explored in depth.
Why the .308 Failed on Roe Deer
“I shot four animals with other faster cartridges. Every single one of them went flat on its chin. Yeah. And I thought that was really, really interesting.”
The Case for the .22 Creedmoor on Small Game
The hosts debate the superiority of high-velocity, lightweight bullets like the 80-grain ELDX in a .22 Creedmoor for roe deer, citing rapid expansion and instant knockdowns.
“I shot four animals with other faster cartridges. Every single one of them went flat on its chin. Yeah. And I thought that was really, really interesting.”
“They'll say, I was handed a Mosin Nagant and four mixed rounds of full metal jacket ammo to go hunt a Eurasian brown bear. Holy moly. We got it done, but it was hairy. That's not an adventure.”
“If you want to talk English a lot, bring a friend. Being alone myself, that was one thing I did on occasion thing. I'd be sitting there at dinner with half a dozen guys that are all obviously telling great hunting stories and I can't understand a word, you know.”
Host
Guest
Landon Michaels
person
Spain
place
Joseph von Benedict
person
Transylvania
place
Serbia
place
Macedonia
place
Romania
place
Global Hunting Adventures
organization
Swift Zephyr
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Swarovski
organization
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