Rethinking Healthcare as Technology Shifts Care to Consumers with Dr. Joel Selanikio
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Dr. Joel Selanikio, a pediatrician and technology leader, joins Scott Becker on the Becker's Healthcare Podcast to challenge conventional wisdom about healthcare spending and the evolving role of consumers in their own care. He presents two startling, under-recognized trends: first, that the rate of healthcare spending growth in the U.S. has declined for 50 years despite an aging, fatter population, and second, that primary care visits among insured Americans dropped 24% from 2008 to 2016—yet this finding remains unknown to most physicians and healthcare executives. Selanikio argues that technology is quietly shifting core health tasks—from knowledge acquisition and diagnosis to treatment and monitoring—out of the traditional healthcare system and into the consumer’s hands, through tools like Google, ChatGPT, over-the-counter drugs, and wearable devices. He highlights how direct-to-consumer platforms like Hims & Hers are eliminating demand for traditional medical visits for GLP-1 medications, a trend that could drastically reduce downstream healthcare utilization, such as bariatric surgery and joint replacements, if obesity rates decline significantly. Despite these profound shifts, healthcare systems remain focused on traditional billing data and provider-driven models, failing to track or analyze these transformative consumer-led changes. Selanikio warns that without systematic data collection and third-party analysis, healthcare leaders risk being blindsided by disruption—like Kodak’s downfall—while they remain preoccupied with short-term operational demands. He concludes with cautious optimism: technology will make healthcare better and smaller, but only if the industry starts asking the right questions and investing in foresight. The episode underscores a critical gap between real-world health behavior and institutional awareness. Key takeaways include: 1) Healthcare spending growth has been declining for 50 years—yet this is ignored by the industry; 2) A 24% drop in primary care visits since 2008 is largely unknown, signaling a massive shift in consumer health autonomy; 3) Technology is not just supporting healthcare—it’s actively removing tasks from it, especially through consumer-facing tools; 4) Direct-to-consumer models are not just convenient—they’re demand eliminators, especially in areas like weight management; 5) The healthcare system’s focus on provider-based billing prevents it from seeing the full picture of where care is actually happening; 6) Without proactive data aggregation and analysis, healthcare leaders will be unprepared for cascading effects like reduced demand for surgeries and hospital services; 7) The future of healthcare is not just about better tools—it’s about redefining what healthcare actually is. The overall sentiment is cautiously optimistic, emphasizing urgency and the need for systemic change.
Healthcare spending growth has declined for 50 years despite an aging, fatter population—yet this is widely unknown in the industry.
Primary care visits among insured Americans dropped 24% from 2008 to 2016, but most physicians and executives are unaware of this trend.
Technology is systematically moving tasks like knowledge, diagnosis, treatment, and monitoring out of healthcare and into the consumer’s hands.
Direct-to-consumer platforms (e.g., Hims & Hers) are eliminating demand for traditional medical visits, especially for GLP-1 drugs.
Healthcare systems are blind to these shifts because they only track provider-based billing, not consumer-led care.
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Introducing Dr. Joel Selanikio: Pediatrician, Tech Leader, and Healthcare Futurist
Scott Becker introduces Dr. Joel Selanikio, a pediatrician with decades of experience in public health technology and data systems, who now focuses on how technology is reshaping healthcare and consumer health.
The Hidden Decline in Healthcare Spending Growth
“If you look back at the previous 10 years in the 1960s, you'd find that health care spending had gone up by 83% per capita in the United States. If you look 20 years later in 1990, in the previous decade in the 80s, it had gone up by 65%. If you look most recently in the last 10 years, it's gone up by 28%.”
The 24% Drop in Primary Care Visits: A Silent Revolution
“I've never found a primary care doctor who was familiar with the study... I've never found anyone who came up with a satisfactory explanation for this.”
The Five Migrations of Health from Healthcare to Consumers
“They're not destroying health care. They're not eliminating health care, but they are removing tasks out of health care.”
Direct-to-Consumer Disruption: GLP-1s and the New Healthcare Economy
“This I think is a little bit different from the migrations that I talked about, because in that case... what you're seeing is the disruption of health care... a kind of Clayton Christensen sense of disruption.”
“If you look back at the previous 10 years in the 1960s, you'd find that health care spending had gone up by 83% per capita in the United States. If you look 20 years later in 1990, in the previous decade in the 80s, it had gone up by 65%. If you look most recently in the last 10 years, it's gone up by 28%.”
“The question only becomes, you know, who? I mean, you know, Scott, you know, you're a guy who obviously spends a lot of time thinking about health and health care. You know, you don't know the answer. I don't know the answer. Why don't we know the answer?”
“I've never found a primary care doctor who was familiar with the study... I've never found anyone who came up with a satisfactory explanation for this.”
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Scott Becker
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Hims & Hers
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