Why Some People Just Click (and Others Don’t) | Maya Rossignac-Milon
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In this episode of Behavioral Grooves, hosts Kurt Nelson and Tim Houlihan explore the concept of 'shared reality' with guest Maya Rosignac-Milon, a researcher whose work reveals that true alignment at work goes beyond mere communication—it requires a deep, mutual understanding of the world. The conversation begins with personal anecdotes about misaligned team meetings, highlighting how even when people believe they're on the same page, they can end up pursuing different goals. Maya explains that shared reality—the perception of thinking, feeling, and interpreting the world in the same way—is not just a feeling but an observable, measurable phenomenon that enhances productivity, meaning, and performance. Her research shows that shared reality can be cultivated through authenticity, playful riffing, and vulnerability, especially in professional settings. The episode also reveals surprising findings: shared reality with romantic partners can boost work meaning even when they aren’t involved in the job, and that people often underestimate their potential to connect with others, especially those who seem different. The hosts reflect on how their own pre-interview alignment meetings have reduced friction and increased the quality of their work, reinforcing the idea that groove is relational, not individual. Ultimately, the episode argues that building shared reality is not about working harder, but about syncing more deeply with coworkers to create a more meaningful, efficient, and joyful work experience.
Shared reality—feeling like you and another person see the world the same way—is a measurable, observable phenomenon that boosts productivity and meaning at work.
Authenticity, vulnerability, and playful 'riffing' (building on each other’s ideas) are key to creating shared reality, especially in professional settings.
You don’t need to be similar to someone to connect—shared reality emerges from co-creating meaning in the moment, not from surface-level similarities.
Even non-work relationships (like with a romantic partner) can enhance work meaning by reducing uncertainty and providing a sense of shared understanding of the world.
Pre-interview alignment meetings or regular check-ins help teams avoid misalignment and rework by ensuring shared reality before action begins.
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The Misalignment Problem: When Teams Think They're Aligned
“We had a great conversation, and everybody's ready to go, boom, here we go, there we go, yay! And a couple days later, they come back with what they were doing, and I'm going... what is this? This is not what I asked about.”
Defining Shared Reality: The Feeling of 'Clicking' Together
“You know that feeling when you're with a close friend at an event and someone says something that reminds you both of an inside joke and you exchange a knowing glance across the room? Yeah, yeah, I do. We can all resonate, right?”
The Ripple Effects of Shared Reality: Meaning, Performance, and Trust
“When people experience a greater sense of shared reality with their colleagues, then they relative to how much shared reality they usually experience with them... they find their work more meaningful. And in turn, they perform better at work.”
Creating Shared Reality: Authenticity, Riffing, and Psychological Safety
“We have a bullshit meter. That we pay attention to. So I know, I know that that's not terribly scientific, but, but yeah, so, so that's out there.”
The Power of Callbacks and Long-Term Shared Reality
Maya introduces 'callbacks'—returning to a shared moment or inside joke months later—as a powerful tool to maintain and deepen shared reality over time. This keeps the connection alive even when people don’t interact regularly.
“It's not that much about how similar or different you are on paper. And it's much more about what you can create together in that moment.”
“When people experience a greater sense of shared reality with their colleagues, then they relative to how much shared reality they usually experience with them... they find their work more meaningful. And in turn, they perform better at work.”
“You know that feeling when you're with a close friend at an event and someone says something that reminds you both of an inside joke and you exchange a knowing glance across the room? Yeah, yeah, I do. We can all resonate, right?”
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Tim Houlihan
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Maya Rosignac-Milon
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Catalina Enestrom
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Columbia University
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Tori Higgins
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