Behind the Mask of Shame Part 2 - Grit, Shame, and Burnout

Behind The Knife: The Surgery Podcast33mApril 14, 2026

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In this powerful second episode of 'Behind the Mask of Shame,' Stephen Thornton continues his deep dive into the culture of surgical training, focusing on the pervasive and damaging effects of shame-based learning. Joined by Dr. Dino Zamet and Dr. Ruan Elabd from McGill University, the discussion centers on their groundbreaking study revealing that 75% of surgical residents reported being personally shamed, with nearly 90% witnessing shaming incidents—most often by attending surgeons or senior residents. The episode unpacks the psychological toll: shame correlates strongly with burnout, depression, anxiety, professional isolation, and even suicidal thoughts. Yet, a surprising protective factor emerged—grit. Residents with higher grit levels reported lower burnout and greater professional fulfillment, and were less likely to shame others, suggesting resilience can break the cycle of shame. The conversation also challenges the myth that toughness requires humiliation, emphasizing instead the need for tailored, constructive feedback and psychological safety. The hosts stress that culture change starts at leadership and requires intentional, empathetic training practices to support both trainees and patient outcomes. Key takeaways include: 1) Shame-based learning is widespread and harmful, undermining both well-being and performance; 2) Grit acts as a protective buffer against burnout and promotes healthier interpersonal dynamics; 3) Feedback must be personalized—what works for one trainee may harm another; 4) Leadership must model respect and psychological safety; 5) Anonymous reporting and open dialogue are essential tools for culture change; 6) Despite the challenges, most residents remain deeply passionate about surgery, underscoring the need to preserve that passion through humane training. The episode closes on a hopeful note: transformation is possible when institutions prioritize empathy over humiliation.

Key Takeaways
1

Shame-based learning is widespread in surgery, with 75% of residents reporting personal experiences of shame.

2

Grit is a protective factor—residents with higher grit report lower burnout and are less likely to shame others.

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Feedback must be personalized: different trainees respond to different styles, and one-size-fits-all criticism harms performance and well-being.

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Psychological safety is essential—residents must feel safe to admit errors without fear of humiliation.

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Leadership sets the tone: culture change starts at the top and trickles down through modeling respectful behavior.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

Introduction to the Fellowship & Series

Stephen Thornton introduces the Behind the Knife Surgical Education Fellowship, inviting surgical residents to join a two-year program focused on digital education, content creation, and professional growth. He then launches into the second episode of a series on shame in surgical training, setting the stage for a deep exploration of emotional and cultural dynamics in surgical education.

2:00
3 min

Defining Shame, Burnout, and Grit

The episode defines key concepts: shame as a feeling of being globally flawed; burnout as emotional exhaustion, depersonalization, and reduced accomplishment; and grit as perseverance and passion for long-term goals. These constructs form the foundation for understanding how surgical training culture impacts well-being.

5:00
5 min

The Study: Prevalence and Triggers of Shame

16% of the residents said that they were being shamed, but they didn't know why they were being shamed.

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10:00
5 min

Consequences of Shame and the Role of Grit

Residents with higher grit scores were less likely to report burnout and they actually reported greater professional fulfillment.

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15:00
5 min

The Culture of Shame: Intent, Power, and Paradox

It's really a culture that you're trying to build within your team. And what you model gets merit back, right?

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High-Impact Quotes
If a resident has high grit and they did really go through a very tough to the point that they were really burnt out, at this point, that grit is not a protective for them. They still had thoughts of suicide.
Dr. Dino Zamet22:29
Viral: 92.0
Almost 80% of our surgical residents that we sampled reported they are satisfied to very satisfied for having a chance to even becoming a surgeon.
Dr. Ruan Elabd30:14
Viral: 90.0
I know there's some residents I can be a bit tougher with you just because of that relationship I have with them and others, you know, even if it's the same error throughout the same level, I know I have to kind of give that feedback... in a different way.
Dr. Dino Zamet27:16
Viral: 88.0
Speakers

Host

Stephen Thornton

Guests

Dr. Dino ZametDr. Ruan Elabd
Topics Discussed
shame in surgical training95%burnout in medicine90%constructive feedback88%psychological safety87%surgical culture change86%grit and resilience85%leadership in medical education75%gender and shame60%
People & Brands

Dr. Dino Zamet

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Dr. Ruan Elabd

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Stephen Thornton

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McGill University

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shame-based learning

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12xNegative

burnout

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10xNegative

Behind the Knife

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10xPositive

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8xPositive

constructive feedback

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6xPositive

Plastic Surgery Residency Program

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