We’ll Do It LIVE! — Steve Kroft
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Steve Kroft, one of television’s most decorated journalists, delivers a raw, unfiltered reflection on the decline of broadcast news, particularly at CBS and 60 Minutes. He argues that the golden era of journalism—defined by seasoned reporters like Mike Wallace and Dan Rather—has been eroded by corporate disinvestment, the collapse of training pipelines, and a shift toward ideological conformity. Kroft reveals that the current state of newsrooms is less about truth-seeking and more about political alignment, with anchors like Scott Pelley and Leslie Stahl openly hostile to figures like Trump. He recounts his own career with vivid anecdotes—from being told he’d be 'limping for six months' after joining 60 Minutes to interviewing Clinton during the Jennifer Flowers scandal—and exposes the cutthroat, paranoid culture of network news, where 'friendship' often masks professional sabotage. Despite his towering legacy, Kroft admits he wouldn’t do it again, calling the job a 'snake pit' that drained him emotionally and physically. His final verdict? The institution he helped build no longer exists—and that’s a tragedy not just for journalism, but for democracy.
60 Minutes lost its edge because there are no 'minor leagues' for journalists anymore—no path to develop raw talent.
The decline of CBS news began when network owners stopped investing in long-form reporting, even though it still made money.
Kroft says 60 Minutes was a 'hand-to-hand combat' environment where producers and reporters fought to keep their stories unedited.
He believes the media’s leftward tilt isn’t just political—it’s geographic and cultural, rooted in East Coast, Ivy League elites.
Journalists like Kroft were once protected by powerful figures like Peter Jennings; today, no one protects you—everyone wants to cut your throat.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The Death of CBS News
“I think the people that own the networks decided to write it off, that it was not that important to them anymore even though it still produces a huge amount of money but that the future was someplace else.”
The 60 Minutes Savage Culture
“There was no civility at 60 Minutes. It was like, you're an idiot. If there was civility, you better check your wallet.”
The Clinton Interview: A Masterclass in Framing
“I said, so tell me, who is Jennifer Flowers and how do you know her? That was smart. Yeah, because he was completely flummoxed.”
The Myth of Media Neutrality
Kroft challenges the idea that CBS was liberal, arguing that 60 Minutes actually exposed conservative issues like fraud and waste in Washington. He blames the perception of bias on the media’s shift to catering to ideological tribes.
The Snake Pit: Why Journalists Don’t Make Friends
Kroft reveals the deep-seated paranoia and backstabbing in newsrooms, where even friendly gestures are suspect. He shares the story of Andy Rooney telling him, 'You'll never make it kid,' in an elevator.
“There was no civility at 60 Minutes. It was like, you're an idiot. If there was civility, you better check your wallet.”
“I think the people that own the networks decided to write it off, that it was not that important to them anymore even though it still produces a huge amount of money but that the future was someplace else.”
“I said, so tell me, who is Jennifer Flowers and how do you know her? That was smart. Yeah, because he was completely flummoxed.”
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Bill Clinton
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Steve Kroft
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Dan Rather
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Bernie Goldberg
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Mike Wallace
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Don Hewitt
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Jennifer Flowers
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