Hour 3 - Here's The Thing, Jeff Passan
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The Mariners' surprising 5-1 road trip has reignited hope, with rookie Cole Young emerging as a surprise catalyst—not Cal Raleigh, Julio Rodríguez, or Josh Naylor, but a player who’s transformed physically and mentally since last season. Jeff Passan, joining Brock and Salk alongside longtime friend Greg Bishop, breaks down Young’s evolution from a struggling hitter to a .500+ performer, attributing it to a deliberate shift toward strength and plate discipline. Passan argues that Young’s rapid development reflects the Mariners’ elite player development system, which excels at evolving players like Emerson Hancock—whose radically different mechanics and sweeper have made him a different pitcher overnight. Despite a rocky start, Passan remains bullish on the Mariners’ World Series chances, citing under-the-radar depth and the potential of a big-league-ready Cade Anderson. He also dismisses the Traject machine as a tool, not a solution, for platoon matchups, emphasizing that real game experience still trumps simulation. The episode is laced with humor, including a story of Passan’s underage ID arrest in West Virginia and a playful debate over who has better hair: Passan or Jerry DiPoto.
Cole Young’s 500+ batting average in April is a result of a deliberate physical transformation and plate discipline shift, not just raw talent.
The Mariners’ player development system is among the best in baseball, evidenced by Emerson Hancock’s radical mechanical evolution and Cade Anderson’s big-league readiness.
Despite a 6.3 ERA, Luis Castillo should remain in the rotation due to his track record and the team’s depth, not be moved to the bullpen.
The Traject machine helps hitters prepare but cannot replace real in-game at-bats—especially against unpredictable pitchers.
Infield shifts are now standard, not just a strategy but a norm driven by analytics, making 'lucky' hits like Cole Young’s single more common.
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Opening Banter and Fan Messages
The hosts kick off with playful jabs at each other and read humorous fan messages, including a song about the Mariners written to the tune of Les Misérables and a dad joke about Lyle not being Vita Vea.
Fan Questions on Platoon Strategy and Bunting
Listeners ask about platoon matchups and bunting, with Lyle firmly opposing bunts except in rare, extreme scenarios. The hosts debate whether the Traject machine could solve platoon data gaps.
Greg Bishop Joins the Show
Greg Bishop arrives, and the hosts set up a playful 'Thunderdome' dynamic with Jeff Passan. They share stories of their college friendship, including a near-arrest in West Virginia.
Cole Young’s Breakout and Player Development
“The Mariners in terms of just pure player development at the big league level, no less, are one of the best teams in baseball.”
The Future of the Mariners' Rotation
“I don't think Luis Castillo is necessarily the guy that you're going to say, hey, after being an effective big league starter for upward of a decade now, want to go to the bullpen?”
“The Mariners in terms of just pure player development at the big league level, no less, are one of the best teams in baseball.”
“I don't think Luis Castillo is necessarily the guy that you're going to say, hey, after being an effective big league starter for upward of a decade now, want to go to the bullpen?”
“The Traject's been around for a while now. Almost every organization in baseball has it and the batting average in the game is still 234.”
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Jeff Passan
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Greg Bishop
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Seattle Mariners
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Brock Huard
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Cole Young
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Mike Salk
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Emerson Hancock
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Luis Castillo
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Cade Anderson
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Bryce Miller
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