Hour 4-Salk and Lyle square off on sac bunts, and Michael Holley talks rumored Seahawks bidder Wyc Grousbeck

Brock and Salk44mMay 12, 2026

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The Seattle Seahawks' potential ownership change is front and center as Brock and Salk dive into the rumor that Wyc Grousbeck, the Boston Celtics owner, is preparing a bid for the NFL team. Michael Hawley, Salk’s former co-host and a Boston sports insider, joins the show to unpack Grousbeck’s background—his Ivy League roots, tech-era wealth, and his successful but tumultuous tenure with the Celtics. Hawley paints Grousbeck as media-friendly, hands-off, and committed to continuity, making him a compelling candidate if he lands the Seahawks. The conversation shifts to the broader implications: while ownership matters, the real test is whether Grousbeck’s leadership style—focused on stability and excellence—aligns with Seattle’s culture. The hosts also debate the Rays’ surprising success through old-school tactics like bunting and stolen bases, challenging the dominance of modern analytics. Despite skepticism, they agree that the Rays’ approach offers a valuable data point in an era of homogenized baseball strategy, proving that innovation isn’t always about new metrics—it can be about reimagining the fundamentals.

Key Takeaways
1

Wyc Grousbeck is a serious contender for Seahawks ownership, with deep pockets, media savvy, and a proven track record of success with the Celtics.

2

Grousbeck is expected to be hands-on but non-mediating—prioritizing team continuity and excellence over interference.

3

The Rays’ 2026 success using bunts and stolen bases challenges the dominance of modern analytics, proving old-school tactics can still be effective.

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Even if bunting isn’t the future of baseball, the Rays’ approach forces opponents to adapt and creates valuable strategic data points.

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Ownership matters—culture, decision-making, and leadership style directly impact team performance and fan experience.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

Opening: The Red Queen Theory in Sports

Brock and Salk open with a discussion on the Red Queen Theory—where constant innovation is required just to maintain position—applying it to baseball and the evolution of analytics.

2:00
3 min

The Rays’ Bunting Revolution

They're winning because they're pitching. They have a great rotation. And some of that is what was used against the A's back in the day when they first started winning with on-base percentage and some of the other things.

Highlight
5:00
5 min

Grousbeck’s Bid for the Seahawks

He's a media-friendly owner. He'll be on your show. You'll want to have a weekly spot with Wick Grossbeck. He's just that kind of guy.

Highlight
10:00
5 min

Why Grousbeck Might Be the Ideal Owner

Hawley explains Grousbeck’s leadership philosophy—supporting continuity, avoiding meddling, and fostering stability—making him a rare breed in sports ownership.

15:00
5 min

The NFL’s Week One Matchup Debate

The hosts analyze whether the Patriots vs. Seahawks should open the NFL season, arguing against it due to the emotional weight of the Super Bowl rematch.

High-Impact Quotes
We're all hypocrites. You said it all the time, and you're absolutely right, and we are all hypocrites, and I quote you on that all the time.
Brock Huard37:28
Viral: 80.0
They're winning because they're pitching. They have a great rotation. And some of that is what was used against the A's back in the day when they first started winning with on -base percentage and some of the other
Mike Salk6:20
Viral: 78.0
It's the money. It's the culture. It's the decision making. I mean, look at how miserable Trailblazers fans already are with Tom Duncan.
Mike Salk44:02
Viral: 75.0
Speakers

Hosts

Brock HuardMike Salk

Guest

Michael Hawley
Topics Discussed
seahawks ownership95%wyc grousbeck90%sports ownership culture88%tampa bay rays85%baseball analytics80%sacrifice bunts75%nfl schedule70%red queen theory65%
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michael hawley

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seattle seahawks

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wyc grousbeck

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boston celtics

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tampa bay rays

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mike vrabel

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aditya mittal

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