154. How and why we teach Roman history, with Beth Digeser

Byzantium & Friends1h 4mApril 9, 2026

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In this episode of Byzantium & Friends, host Anthony engages in a thoughtful discussion with Professor Beth Digeser of the University of California, Santa Barbara, about the evolving pedagogy of teaching Roman history in the contemporary academic landscape. They explore the dual challenges posed by ideological critiques from both the political left—highlighting Roman history's problematic legacies around empire, slavery, and gender—and the right, which often dismisses the humanities as politically subversive. Digeser argues that Roman history's true value lies not in its supposed 'archetypal' status, but in its complexity and capacity to challenge students' assumptions. She emphasizes using Roman history as a lens to explore enduring human issues such as identity, religious difference, and the psychological toll of autocracy, while also de-centering Rome’s city-centric narrative in favor of a 'global Rome' that highlights provincial agency, migration, and cross-cultural exchange. The conversation underscores how teaching Roman history must be dynamic, responsive to current events, and grounded in both intellectual rigor and pedagogical empathy. Digeser shares her approach to course design, focusing on core Roman concepts like citizenship, universalism, and imperial governance as frameworks for critical thinking. She illustrates this with her innovative use of Gaul as a microcosm of Roman imperialism, allowing students to trace the transformation of a region from resistance to Romanization. She also highlights the relevance of late antiquity—particularly the 3rd to 4th centuries—for understanding modern issues like religious intolerance and ethnic integration, noting how late Roman debates about heresy, paganism, and foreign soldiers mirror contemporary struggles. Ultimately, the episode positions Roman history not as a static canon, but as a living, evolving dialogue between past and present, essential for cultivating critical, self-reflective citizens in a polarized world.

Key Takeaways
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Teach Roman history not for its supposed 'archetype' of empire, but for its complexity and ability to challenge modern assumptions about identity, power, and ethics.

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Use 'global Rome' as a pedagogical framework to de-center Rome and highlight provincial agency, migration, and cross-cultural exchange.

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Focus on core Roman concepts—citizenship, universalism, autocracy, religious difference—as enduring frameworks for critical thinking.

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Late antiquity offers powerful parallels to modern issues like religious persecution, ethnic integration, and the 'empire comes home' phenomenon.

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Course design should be responsive to current events, using headlines as entry points to engage students without reducing history to presentism.

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The Intellectual Roots of Teaching Roman History

Anthony introduces the episode by reflecting on his translation work of 14th-century Byzantine historian Nikiforos Grigoras and his teacher Theodoros Metochites. He highlights Metochites' self-reflective view of history—reading Greek history for its literature, but Roman history for its global impact—setting the stage for a discussion on why and how we teach Roman history today.

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The Ideological Challenges to Teaching Roman History

The great thing about Roman history is that it's so much more complicated than either the right or the left to think of it as being right.

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Roman History as a Pedagogical Tool for Critical Thinking

I find these ancient societies very useful to think with because they show, they contain a lot of the sort of relevant issues that one needs to work with concepts, but in an environment and a culture that is in many ways so different.

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The 'Global Rome' Framework and De-Centering the Center

One of the really important aspects of the Roman Empire is what I mentioned just a few minutes ago, the idea that it made this incredibly long-lasting out of a very mixed ethnic group.

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Teaching Roman Imperialism Through a Microcosm: Gaul

It's in a little microcosm. So you could kind of, at least for me, appreciate what they're doing on a more granular level.

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High-Impact Quotes
The thing about Roman history is that it is, yeah, it's ancient. But the changing times now I have found have been just enormously generative...
Beth Digeser62:39
Viral: 88.0
It's not just some static knowledge base of, you know, Roman history that keeps it before our eyes, but in fact the changing circumstances under which we live are constantly renewing the reasons why it's interesting for us.
Beth Digeser63:30
Viral: 86.0
The great thing about Roman history is that it's so much more complicated than either the right or the left to think of it as being right.
Beth Digeser13:42
Viral: 85.0
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Anthony

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