E440: Return on Relationship (ROR) The Sales Strategy Top Closers Use with Brett Kramer
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In this episode of Capital Hacking, host Robert Kiyosaki welcomes Brett Kramer, a top-tier Cutco sales representative with over 13 years of experience and $4.39 million in lifetime sales. Brett shares his journey from a college summer job to building a full-time career in sales, emphasizing the power of relationship-driven business through his innovative 'Return on Relationship' (ROR) strategy. He discusses how he transformed Cutco from a traditional knife-selling business into a dynamic platform for community building, personal branding, and B2B gifting—leveraging his Facebook group, The Kramer Kitchen, which has over 4,000 members and has given away $35,000+ in Cutco products. Brett highlights the importance of referrals, personalization, and long-term customer engagement, showing how thoughtful gifts like engraved knives create lasting emotional and practical value. The conversation also explores the deeper training and life skills developed through Cutco’s Vector Marketing system, which fosters financial literacy, confidence, and resilience in young adults. The episode underscores how human capital—built through authentic relationships—is the true engine of sustainable business growth. Key takeaways include: 1) Prioritize relationship-building over transactional selling by creating value beyond the product; 2) Use social media not just for promotion, but to build community and trust; 3) Personalized, practical gifts (like engraved knives) create lasting impressions and strengthen business relationships; 4) Invest in training and personal development—especially for young people—to build lifelong skills; 5) Referrals are the most powerful sales tool when you’re referable, likable, and consistently valuable. The overall sentiment is highly positive, celebrating personal growth, entrepreneurial spirit, and the transformative power of meaningful human connection in business.
Prioritize relationship-building over transactional selling by creating value beyond the product.
Use social media not just for promotion, but to build community and trust.
Personalized, practical gifts (like engraved knives) create lasting impressions and strengthen business relationships.
Invest in training and personal development—especially for young people—to build lifelong skills.
Referrals are the most powerful sales tool when you’re referable, likable, and consistently valuable.
Special Real Estate Opportunity & Episode Intro
Robert Kiyosaki announces a new real estate investment opportunity along the Chesapeake Bay through Accountable Equity, then introduces the episode and guest Brett Kramer, setting the stage for a deep dive into relationship-driven sales.
Brett Kramer's Journey & Career Choice
Brett shares his origin story—starting as a college student in 2013, choosing to stay in sales rather than transition into management, and building a sustainable lifestyle through Cutco over 13 years.
The Power of Referrals & Community Building
“I've given over $35,000 worth of Cutco in the past six years that I've had my Facebook group. Just something that gets people excited.”
From Knives to Business Gifting: The ROR Strategy
“The most important thing in business is relationships. And you're going to get a way better ROR return on relationship when you give something that's more thoughtful.”
Product Conviction & Personal Connection
Brett discusses how his deep personal use of Cutco products, family history, and factory visits foster genuine product conviction, transforming sales into authentic storytelling.
“The most important thing in business is relationships. And you're going to get a way better ROR return on relationship when you give something that's more thoughtful.”
“I've given over $35,000 worth of Cutco in the past six years that I've had my Facebook group. Just something that gets people excited.”
“I've sold $4,391,659 to date personally. That's no office sales. That's just what I've sold myself.”
Hosts
Guest
Brett Kramer
person
Cutco
brand
Robert Kiyosaki
person
Vector Marketing
brand
John Edwin
person
Josh McCallum
person
The Kramer Kitchen
brand
Accountable Equity
brand
John Rowland
person
Giftology
brand
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