787: Better Leadership Through Humor, with Chris Duffy
Leadership isn't just about strategy and structure—it's also about presence, connection, and the quiet power of humor. In this episode, Chris Duffy, author of *Humor Me*, challenges the idea that humor is just about telling jokes or being the center of attention. Instead, he reframes it as a radical act of generosity: noticing the absurd, embracing imperfection, and creating space for joy in the mundane. Drawing from his experience as a teacher and comedian, Duffy reveals how a simple shift—like laughing at a coffee stain or a typo on a client gift—can build trust, reduce fear, and make teams more creative and resilient. He argues that humor isn't a distraction from leadership; it’s the very tool that makes leadership more human, more effective, and more joyful. The episode dismantles the myth that leaders must be flawless, showing how selective vulnerability—acknowledging failure with laughter—actually strengthens influence and connection. The conversation unfolds through practical, actionable insights: the 'new bathroom mindset' for retraining attention, the power of asking second questions to uncover hidden truths, and the radical idea of celebrating failure as a path to excellence. From a LinkedIn prank that got him banned to a museum of bad art that transforms how we see beauty, Duffy shows that humor is not performance—it’s perception. By training ourselves to notice the strange, the awkward, and the absurd, we don’t just laugh more—we lead better.
Humor is not about telling jokes—it’s a tool for presence, connection, and vulnerability that makes leadership easier and more joyful.
Practice the 'new bathroom mindset' by noticing small details in familiar places (like your commute or office) to retrain your attention and spark humor.
Laughter at your own mistakes—like a coffee stain or a typo—builds trust and makes you more relatable, not less credible.
Celebrate the 'bad'—mistakes, failures, and absurdities—to create psychological safety and unlock creativity in teams.
Ask a second question to uncover deeper insights; it’s a simple habit that reveals what you’ve been missing in conversations.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
Humor as a Leadership Superpower
“Humor, to me, is this magical tool that lets you do all of those without it feeling like work, right?”
The Myth of the Funny Leader
“The important part is noticing the strange and unusual and the absurd and being willing to laugh about it, even if it is in yourself.”
The Generosity of Laughter
“The potato side isn't about getting applause. It's not saying I'm a genius and the greatest artist of all time. It's about creating delight for other people, which is to me such an incredibly generous category.”
The New Bathroom Mindset
Chris introduces a practical framework: the 'new bathroom mindset'—treating familiar environments like a first-time visitor to retrain attention. This simple shift helps leaders notice the absurd, mundane, and overlooked.
Humor as a Muscle, Not a Talent
Humor isn't innate—it's a skill anyone can develop. Chris argues that kids are naturally funny, and corporate culture is what kills it. The key is practicing presence and curiosity, not performance.
“So, you know, the potato side isn't about. getting applause. It's not saying I'm a genius and the greatest artist of all time. It's about creating delight for other people, which is to me such an incredibly generous category.”
“And having that celebration of the bad changes our relationship to the good. It makes us feel more empowered.”
“And humor, to me, is this magical tool that lets you do all of those without it feeling like work, right?”
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Chris Duffy
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Dave Stachowiak
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Coaching for Leaders
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Humor Me
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Gary
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Museum of Bad Art
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Oscar Tromboli
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Marshall Goldsmith
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Leanne Tenbrink
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