S12 Bonus: Yoav Crombie, Pragatix by AGAT Software

Code Story: Insights from Startup Tech Leaders25mApril 2, 2026

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In this bonus episode of Code Story, host Noah Labhart interviews Yoav Crombie, co-founder and CEO of Agathe (AGAT Software), about the creation and evolution of Pragatix—a platform designed to bring secure, private, and controlled AI adoption to enterprises. Drawing on decades of experience in cybersecurity and enterprise software, Yoav explains how Pragatix emerged from the need to address two critical challenges: the risk of exposing sensitive corporate data to public AI models and the lack of visibility and control over how employees use AI tools. The platform offers an on-prem AI suite for private, data-secure AI workflows and a multi-layered firewall that monitors agent behavior, model risks, and data sensitivity in real time. Yoav emphasizes a customer-led, iterative approach to product development, rapid prototyping using modern AI tools, and a strong focus on team culture—guided by his '4H' hiring philosophy (humble, honest, hungry, happy). He reflects on the company’s journey from bootstrapped startup to a 25-person team serving 25 Fortune 500 clients, and shares insights on scalability, mistakes in speed vs. quality, and the importance of believing in big visions. His final advice to young founders? Think big, believe in yourself, and keep your eyes on the horizon—just like in cycling and surfing.

Key Takeaways
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Build secure, private AI platforms with on-prem deployment and real-time monitoring to protect sensitive data and meet compliance needs.

2

Adopt a customer-led, rapid-iteration approach—prototype fast, get feedback early, and evolve based on real-world use.

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Hire for culture fit using the '4H' framework: humble, honest, hungry, and happy—these traits matter more than technical skill alone.

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Balance speed with quality—moving fast can break things, but disciplined iteration prevents long-term pain.

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Believe in your vision: positive thinking and clear direction shape reality in business and life.

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Chapters
0:00
5 min

Sponsor Intro: The Build & .tech Domains

The episode opens with sponsor messages for The Build podcast and .tech domains, with Noah sharing a personal story about struggling to secure a .com domain in 2016 and advocating for .tech as a clear, identity-driven alternative for tech startups.

5:00
5 min

Introducing Pragatix: Secure AI for Enterprises

We enable AI for companies that have problems or restrictions from using AI. We have a new interesting direction by the way which is a side result of the visibility we can give you like intelligence into adoption.

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10:00
5 min

The Origins: From Cybersecurity to AI Security

Yoav traces the roots of Pragatix back to AGAT’s earlier work in application firewalls for Skype for Business and email security, which were acquired by Symantec. These experiences gave the team deep expertise in enterprise security, compliance, and on-prem deployment.

15:00
5 min

MVP Evolution: From AI Assistant to Firewall

I'm very customer-led. I hear what customers want. I try to build some prototype to show it to them, work in very short iterations even if it's not fully functional, get short feedbacks and bring it to market as fast as possible.

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20:00
5 min

Team Culture & the 4H Philosophy

I feel it's a match and it takes me time to find employees. I'm very fussy about that but it's like a date you need to keep trying until you feel it.

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High-Impact Quotes
If you really believe in what you do and you can envision your future bright and clear, envision yourself becoming a leader in what you're doing, it will happen eventually.
Yoav Crombie31:17
Viral: 90.0
We enable AI for companies that have problems or restrictions from using AI. We have a new interesting direction by the way which is a side result of the visibility we can give you like intelligence into adoption.
Yoav Crombie10:30
Viral: 85.0
Think big. Think big. Work big, you'll become big.
Private Investor (quoted by Yoav)29:42
Viral: 82.0
Speakers

Host

Noah Labhart

Guest

Yoav Crombie
Topics Discussed
Enterprise AI Security95%On-Prem AI Platforms90%AI Agent Control and Monitoring88%Customer-Led Product Development85%Startup Team Culture82%Bootstrapped Growth80%AI Model Risk Management78%Vision and Belief in Entrepreneurship75%
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Pragatix

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Yoav Crombie

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Agathe

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ChatGPT

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BrainGrid

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3xPositive

Mesmo

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3xPositive

The Build

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3xPositive

Private Investor

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3xPositive

Unblocked

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3xPositive

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3xPositive

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