The Freedom Reader
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Reginald Betts, a Yale Law School graduate and MFA in poetry recipient, shares his transformative journey from a 16-year-old who committed a carjacking and served eight and a half years in prison to becoming the founder of Freedom Reads, an organization that has established over 500 libraries in 45 prisons across 14 states. While incarcerated, Betts discovered the life-changing power of books through an underground prison library, where he first read seminal Black poets like Langston Hughes and Sonia Sanchez. He recounts how reading Sonia Sanchez’s 'Under a Soprano Sky' became a spiritual and emotional anchor, teaching him to love himself and envision a future beyond violence. Despite having no formal plan, Betts leaned into curiosity, passion, and the belief that books could be a talisman against the cycle of incarceration. His story is one of redemption, resilience, and the profound impact of access to literature. Conan O'Brien is deeply moved by Betts’ story, calling it one of the most inspiring conversations he’s had on the show, and highlights the importance of second chances, the healing power of reading, and the quiet rebellion of book sniffing.
Books can be life-saving tools in prison—especially for those seeking redemption and self-worth.
Freedom Reads has built 500+ libraries in prisons, proving that access to literature transforms lives.
Love and self-acceptance are the antidotes to the violence that often leads people to prison.
You don’t need a plan—curiosity, passion, and trust can lead to extraordinary outcomes.
The smell of a new book is a sensory ritual of hope and connection.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
Reginald Betts: From Carjacker to Yale Graduate
“I changed my life forever. That's the kind of devastating thing about it is recognizing that I changed my life forever.”
The Underground Library: Books as Salvation
“I realized that these poets were able to capture an entire life in 14 lines.”
Sonia Sanchez and the Power of Love Over Violence
“The real way to survive prison ended up being love. It ended up being the exact antithesis of what had gotten most of us in prison.”
From Prison to Yale: The Unplanned Path
Betts shares how he never had a plan, but followed curiosity and passion. He went to law school after being unable to find jobs, then founded Freedom Reads after a friend asked what he’d do if money weren’t an issue.
Freedom Reads: Building Libraries in Prisons
Betts details the growth of Freedom Reads, now operating in 45 prisons across 14 states. He emphasizes the role of prison leadership and the emotional impact of giving incarcerated people access to brand-new books.
“The real way to survive prison ended up being love. It ended up being the exact antithesis of what had gotten most of us in prison.”
“Any story can be told in a very dry, boring way. Or if you've got a really talented writer and storyteller, they can tell it in an amazing way.”
“I changed my life forever. That's the kind of devastating thing about it is recognizing that I changed my life forever.”
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Reginald Betts
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Conan O'Brien
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Freedom Reads
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Sonia Sanchez
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Department of Corrections
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Yale Law School
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The Killer Angels
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Langston Hughes
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The Black Poets
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MFA in Poetry
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