Developing Your Voice Across Mediums with Award-Winning Creator Derek Kirk Kim

Continuing Conversations: Sci-Fi Storytelling & Star Trek Adventures1h 12mMay 15, 2026

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In this heartfelt episode of *Continuing Conversations: Sci-Fi Storytelling & Star Trek Adventures*, hosts Michael Dismuke and Jim Johnson welcome award-winning creator Derek Kirk Kim, an Eisner, Harvey, and Ignatz Award-winning cartoonist, writer, and animator. The conversation begins with a nostalgic flashback to their shared fourth-grade classroom in Pacifica, California, where young Derek drew a cover for Michael’s superhero story—a moment that sparked Michael’s lifelong admiration. Derek reflects on his early struggles as a Korean immigrant adjusting to American life, his language barriers, and the emotional weight of feeling like an outsider—parallels he later explored in his work, particularly through characters like Data from *Star Trek: The Next Generation*. The discussion dives into Derek’s multifaceted career across comics, animation (*Amphibia*, *Adventure Time*), and graphic novels, emphasizing how animation taught him to become a more concise, disciplined storyteller. He shares insights into the collaborative nature of animated storytelling, the pressure of tight production timelines, and the importance of cutting 'darlings'—personal favorites that don’t serve the story. Derek champions comics as the ideal medium for solitary, deeply personal storytelling, valuing the creative freedom and ownership he has through publishers like Image Comics. He offers practical advice to emerging creators: finish your projects, avoid self-consciousness, and prioritize health with standing desks. The episode closes with Derek sharing upcoming works, including the new Image Comics series *Royals* and his first adult romantic comedy, while the hosts express deep gratitude for his authenticity, resilience, and enduring creative vision.

Key Takeaways
1

Finish your projects—even if they’re imperfect; completion is more valuable than perfection.

2

Use tight formats like animation or short stories to train yourself to cut fluff and focus on emotional core.

3

Creative freedom and ownership (e.g., through indie comics) are essential for authentic storytelling.

4

Start your day with creative work—just 30 minutes of writing or drawing—to build momentum and flow.

5

Engage with the world: talk to strangers, visit new places, and collect real-life stories to fuel your imagination.

Chapters
0:00
10 min

A Fourth-Grade Spark: The Origin of a Lifelong Friendship

I created a story about this superhero from East Berlin because he was on the other side of the wall and he was saving people, bringing them over.

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10:00
10 min

From Immigrant to Artist: Navigating Identity and Belonging

When I came to America, I could really relate to that, like just learning, you know, to be American, you know, trying to fit in and trying to belong, you know, like that.

Highlight
20:00
20 min

The Discipline of Animation: Learning to Cut the Chaff

You get to learn to throw away your darlings. You know what I mean? It's like, this might be great. This might be personal to you, funny to you, but it's not really serving the overall story as much, right?

Highlight
40:00
20 min

The Power of Comics: Freedom, Ownership, and the Indie Spirit

Derek champions comics as the ideal medium for his creative voice, citing the freedom to work solo, the ability to retain rights, and the underground, anti-corporate ethos of indie publishers like Image Comics. He reflects on the 1990s comic boom and bust, and how his passion project *Same Difference* eventually led to his professional breakthrough.

1:00:00
20 min

Vulnerability in Storytelling: Writing from the Heart

Derek opens up about the emotional risks of writing autobiographical stories, including using a real breakup letter in one of his comics. He shares the discomfort of being recognized in public and how he now uses genre as a protective layer—like in *The Last Mermaid*, where a mermaid in a robot suit symbolizes his own emotional armor.

High-Impact Quotes
Even if it's bad, just get to the end because you learn so much getting to the end and so many projects that I did early on, I didn't finish. And now those projects, all that work you put into that, it's amounted to nothing.
Derek Kirk Kim52:05
Viral: 88.0
You get to learn to throw away your darlings. You know what I mean? It's like, this might be great. This might be personal to you, funny to you, but it's not really serving the overall story as much, right?
Derek Kirk Kim21:30
Viral: 85.0
I don't trust the criticism or in fact, on my social media, when people are vitriol, I don't mind good criticism. They're vitriolic. I block them.
Michael Dismuke55:24
Viral: 83.0
Speakers

Hosts

Michael DismukeJim Johnson

Guest

Derek Kirk Kim
Topics Discussed
Storytelling Evolution90%Creative Discipline88%Indie Comics and Creative Freedom87%Emotional Vulnerability in Art85%Animation Production Process82%Career Resilience80%Inspiration from Real Life78%Online Criticism and Mental Health75%
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Derek Kirk Kim

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Michael Dismuke

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Jim Johnson

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Star Trek: The Next Generation

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Same Difference

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Image Comics

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The Last Mermaid

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Amphibia

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Adventure Time

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