Evil Lives Among Us | Gilgo Beach Killer Pleads Guilty & Athena Strand Case

Crime Talk with Scott Reisch25mApril 8, 2026

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This episode of Crime Talk with Scott Reisch delivers breaking news on several high-profile criminal cases. The most significant development is the guilty plea of Rex Heurman, the 62-year-old former architect accused in the Gilgo Beach serial killings, admitting to murdering seven women involved in the sex trade whose bodies were found along Long Island's shoreline over a decade. Heurman faces life without parole and will be sentenced on June 17th. The episode also covers the sentencing phase of Tanner Horn, who pled guilty to the capital murder of seven-year-old Athena Strand, with jurors set to hear graphic audio of her final moments in the delivery truck. The case has drawn national attention due to the brutality and the child's age. In Orlando, a key witness in the Demorius Hunter trial admitted to lying for over 20 years about her husband’s involvement in a 2002 murder, undermining prior alibis. Meanwhile, a Wisconsin man, Nicholas Grunman, faces attempted murder charges after allegedly setting fire to his estranged wife’s home while she slept, following a history of harassment and a chilling threat: 'If I can't have you, no one is going to have you.' The episode closes with a lighter note on two tourists arrested for illegally transporting a dead alligator across Florida, highlighting the state’s strict wildlife laws. Scott Reisch underscores the importance of background checks, constitutional rights, and the enduring power of justice. Key takeaways include: 1) Guilty pleas in serial killer cases can end lengthy investigations but don’t guarantee leniency; 2) The emotional toll on victims’ families and the public is immense, especially in child murder cases; 3) Witness credibility is critical—false testimony can derail justice for years; 4) Domestic violence and stalking often escalate into lethal threats, especially during divorce; 5) Even seemingly harmless actions like transporting roadkill can result in felony charges under strict wildlife laws; 6) The legal system continues to grapple with balancing punishment, rehabilitation, and constitutional limits; 7) Public awareness and background checks are essential for personal safety; 8) The death penalty remains a controversial but powerful tool in capital cases, especially when the crime is deemed 'pure evil.'

Key Takeaways
1

Guilty pleas in serial killer cases can bring closure but often result in maximum sentences without negotiation.

2

The use of graphic evidence in sentencing phases, especially involving children, underscores the gravity of the crime.

3

Witnesses lying for decades can severely undermine investigations and delay justice.

4

Threats like 'If I can't have you, no one will' are red flags for potential violence in domestic disputes.

5

Transporting wildlife, even as roadkill, is illegal and can lead to felony charges.

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Chapters
0:00
6 min

Gilgo Beach Killer Rex Heurman Pleads Guilty

Heurman entered guilty pleas to the murders of Sandra Castillo, who was 28, Valerie Mack, who was 24, Jessica Taylor, 20, Maureen Brainerd Barnes, who was 25, Melissa Bartholomew, who was 24 at the time of her death, Megan Waterman, 22 and Amber Costello, who was 27 at her death.

Highlight
5:30
7 min

Athena Strand Case: Audio of Final Moments to Be Played

The audio would allow them to hear what a 250-pound man can do to a 67-pound child, describing the recording as simply horrible.

Highlight
12:00
6 min

Witness Admits Lying in Demorius Hunter Trial

She responded by telling her husband she did not want to hear any details. And for the past 24 years, Joyce Butler has maintained that she and her husband never discussed the matter.

Highlight
17:30
5 min

Wisconsin Man Charged with Attempted Murder After Arson

Nicholas Grunman, 47, is charged with attempted murder after allegedly setting fire to his estranged wife’s home while she slept. He had a history of alcohol abuse and harassment, and made a chilling threat: 'If I can't have you, no one is going to have you.' The fire was set using gasoline, and he was found with a loaded gun.

22:30
4 min

Legal History, Quote of the Day, and Dumb Criminal

The episode covers April 8th in legal history, including the passage of the 13th and 17th Amendments and Truman’s steel seizure order. Justice Felix Frankfurter’s quote on 'intellectual humility' is highlighted. The 'dumb criminal' segment features two tourists arrested for transporting a dead alligator across Florida, violating wildlife laws.

High-Impact Quotes
If I can't have you, no one is going to have you.
Nicholas Grunman (quoted)17:09
Viral: 95.0
If I can't have you, no one is going to have you.
Nicholas Grunman (quoted)17:09
Viral: 95.0
The audio would allow them to hear what a 250-pound man can do to a 67-pound child, describing the recording as simply horrible.
Scott Reisch8:09
Viral: 90.0
Speakers

Host

Scott Reisch
Topics Discussed
Serial Killer Case95%Child Murder and Sentencing90%Witness Tampering and False Testimony85%Domestic Violence and Stalking80%Wildlife Laws and Illegal Possession70%Judicial Humility and Legal Ethics65%Legal History and Constitutional Amendments60%Criminal Justice System Delays55%
People & Brands

Scott Reisch

person

20xNeutral

Athena Strand

person

15xNegative

Tanner Horn

person

14xNegative

Rex Heurman

person

12xNegative

Gilgo Beach

place

10xNegative

Demorius Hunter

person

8xNegative

Nicholas Grunman

person

7xNegative

Joyce Butler

person

6xNeutral

Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission

organization

4xNeutral

Orange County Florida

place

3xNeutral

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