The Dahlia Zodiac Connection: Part Three

Crimes of the Times26mApril 21, 2026

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This episode of *Crimes of the Times* explores the controversial theory that Marvin Margolis, a man linked to the 1947 Black Dahlia murder, may also be the Zodiac Killer. Host Christopher Goffard examines evidence presented by former homicide detective Rick Jackson and amateur codebreaker Alex Baber, who claims to have cracked the Z13 cipher revealing Margolis’s real name. Key points include a deathbed drawing titled 'Elizabeth' with a hidden Zodiac symbol, a map from the Zodiac’s 1970 letter that aligns with Mountain View Cemetery—where Elizabeth Short is buried—and the cryptographic breakthrough that ties Margolis to the cipher. While some experts like Jackson and Mitzi Roberts find the evidence compelling, former FBI profiler Julia Cowley remains skeptical, emphasizing fundamental behavioral differences between the two cases: the Black Dahlia killer’s intimate, sadistic focus on the victim versus the Zodiac’s media-driven, impersonal attacks designed for public fear and recognition. The episode concludes with a reflection on the limitations of criminal profiling and the enduring mystery of both cases, setting up a final installment in the series. Key takeaways include: 1) The Z13 cipher breakthrough may be the strongest link between Margolis and the Zodiac; 2) The alignment of the Zodiac map with Mountain View Cemetery is a striking coincidence with symbolic weight; 3) The psychological profiles of the two killers differ significantly in motivation and behavior, challenging the theory; 4) Profiling can suggest suspects but cannot confirm identity; 5) The convergence of art, code, and geography in the Margolis theory makes it compelling despite lack of definitive forensic proof.

Key Takeaways
1

The Z13 cipher was cracked by amateur Alex Baber, revealing the name 'Marvin Merrill,' an alias of Marvin Margolis.

2

A 1992 drawing by Margolis titled 'Elizabeth' contains a hidden Zodiac symbol and may serve as a psychological confession.

3

The Zodiac’s 1970 map points directly to Mountain View Cemetery, where Elizabeth Short is buried—creating a symbolic link.

4

The Black Dahlia killer focused on intimate, prolonged mutilation; the Zodiac focused on media attention and escape—behavioral differences challenge the theory.

5

Criminal profiling can suggest suspects but cannot confirm identity, and multiple individuals may fit the same profile.

Chapters
0:00
5 min

The Case for Marvin Margolis: Evidence from the Deathbed Drawing

The word Zodiac kind of hidden under the dark shaded areas at the bottom of the picture. That's crazy stuff.

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5:00
5 min

The Zodiac Map and the Mountain View Cemetery Connection

And that zero is right over it. So, it's a pretty chilling thing. But again, it's a reference to both the Zodiac and Elizabeth.

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10:00
5 min

Cracking the Z13 Cipher: The Role of Amateur Sleuth Alex Baber

The name within the code was Marvin Merrill, an alias Marvin Margolis lived under until his death in the early 1990s.

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15:00
5 min

Psychological Profiles: Dahlia vs. Zodiac—Are They the Same Killer?

Former FBI profiler Julia Cowley analyzes the behavioral differences between the two killers. She argues the Black Dahlia killer was obsessed with the victim and engaged in prolonged, intimate mutilation, while the Zodiac was focused on public attention, escape, and media manipulation—making a single perpetrator unlikely.

20:00
6 min

The Limits of Profiling and the Future of the Theory

The episode concludes with a critical reflection on criminal profiling, emphasizing that it can suggest suspects but not confirm them. Cowley states she would be surprised if the same man committed both crimes due to fundamental behavioral differences. The series sets up a final episode exploring a new book that identifies the same suspect in a Zodiac cipher.

High-Impact Quotes
And that zero is right over it. So, it's a pretty chilling thing. But again, it's a reference to both the Zodiac and Elizabeth.
Christopher Goffard2:42
Viral: 90.0
The word Zodiac kind of hidden under the dark shaded areas at the bottom of the picture. That's crazy stuff.
Christopher Goffard1:15
Viral: 85.0
The name within the code was Marvin Merrill, an alias Marvin Margolis lived under until his death in the early 1990s.
Christopher Goffard3:14
Viral: 80.0
Speakers

Host

Christopher Goffard

Guests

Rick JacksonAlex BaberMitzi RobertsJulia CowleyRichard Winton
Topics Discussed
Black Dahlia Murder95%Marvin Margolis92%Zodiac Killer90%Z13 Cipher90%Code Breaking88%Criminal Profiling85%Media Manipulation by Killers80%Forensic Evidence75%
People & Brands

Zodiac Killer

person

18xNeutral

Christopher Goffard

person

15xNeutral

Marvin Margolis

person

14xNeutral

Elizabeth Short

person

12xNeutral

Julia Cowley

person

10xNeutral

Rick Jackson

person

8xPositive

Alex Baber

person

7xPositive

Z13 Cipher

other

6xPositive

San Francisco Chronicle

organization

6xNeutral

Mountain View Cemetery

place

5xNeutral

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