Shekalim 20a Basar Shenisalem Min Haayin (Dirshu Amud Yomi #277)

Daf Yomi with Rabbi Eli Markowitz12mApril 27, 2026

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The episode explores the complex halachic principles surrounding lost items, particularly meat and wine found in natural settings like rivers and marketplaces, and the concept of 'basar shenisalem min haayin'—meat that has been left unwatched and may have been displaced. Rabbi Eli Markowitz examines a series of Talmudic stories where Rav imposed strict gezeirot (rabbinic decrees) due to laxity in observing the laws of watchfulness. These include cases of meat washed ashore by rivers, wine barrels swept downstream, and even a roasted goat found in a marketplace—each raising questions about ownership, kashrut, and whether the original owner has given up hope (yeish). The discussion reveals that when an item is in a place where recovery is practically impossible, the finder may keep it, especially if the item is kosher by assumption. The episode then shifts to the laws of returning lost animals near Jerusalem, where the finder must bring the animal to the Temple as a korban, but is not required to pay for the accompanying wine offering—this cost is borne by the community. The Talmud debates whether the family, the community, or the original owner pays for such offerings if the animal is lost or dies, highlighting the intricate system of communal responsibility in Temple service. The episode underscores a central theme: rabbinic law often extends beyond strict logic to prevent spiritual and communal decline.

Key Takeaways
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When an item is lost in a place where recovery is practically impossible, the finder may keep it even without a clear siman, due to the owner's yeish (giving up hope).

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Rav imposed strict gezeirot on basar shenisalem min haayin to prevent laxity in observing watchfulness, even for seemingly far-fetched scenarios like river-displaced meat.

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If a lost animal is found near Jerusalem, the finder must bring it as a korban, but the cost of the wine offering is paid by the community, not the finder.

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The community (tzibar) is responsible for ensuring korbanot are brought, including replacing lost or damaged animals, through a system of insurance-like contracts.

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Even if an item has a siman, if it's in a high-traffic area where it's likely to be trampled, the finder may keep it due to the lack of reasonable hope of return.

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Chapters
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2 min

Introduction to Basar Shenisalem Min Haayin

Rabbi Markowitz introduces the topic of 'basar shenisalem min haayin'—meat left unwatched and potentially displaced by natural forces. He notes the presence of this discussion in both Shas and Shulchan Aruch, with differences in halachic application between Ashkenazim and Sefardim.

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3 min

Rav's Gezeira on Unwatched Meat

The meat that you see now, it washed up a different piece of meat and that means the velo.

Highlight
5:00
3 min

Cases of Lost Wine and Other Items

The owners give up hope. They do yesh. And therefore... the Chum said you could keep it.

Highlight
8:20
3 min

Returning Lost Animals to Jerusalem

We're not going to give you this fee. Bezdin, the shul will pay for it.

Highlight
11:40
1 min

Responsibility for Lost Korbanot

The final segment discusses who pays for korbanot if an animal is lost or dies. The Talmud debates whether the family, the community (tzibar), or the original owner bears the cost, with the community ultimately responsible through a system of insurance-like contracts.

High-Impact Quotes
The owners give up hope. They do yesh. And therefore... the Chum said you could keep it.
Rabbi Eli Markowitz5:07
Viral: 78.0
We're not going to give you this fee. Bezdin, the shul will pay for it.
Rabbi Eli Markowitz9:51
Viral: 75.0
The meat that you see now, it washed up a different piece of meat and that means the velo.
Rabbi Eli Markowitz1:49
Viral: 72.0
Speakers

Host

Rabbi Eli Markowitz
Topics Discussed
basar shenisalem min haayin92%lost items and yeish88%korbanot and community responsibility85%gezeirot of rav82%returning lost animals to jerusalem80%kashrut of found food75%temple service and offerings70%halachic principles of metziyah68%
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Bezdin

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Tzibar

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Rabbi Yonah Avuch Lamerkei

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Shehu Bois Mishal Tzibor

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Rebbe Eloz

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Rebbe Yosey

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Parah Duma

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