#330 Disaster Recovery for Executives: Why Cloud & SaaS Are NOT Enough
Executives often assume cloud and SaaS providers offer complete disaster protection—until they don't. In this episode, disaster recovery expert Tom May dismantles that myth with a hard truth: even the most reliable cloud infrastructure can fail, and relying solely on it leaves businesses vulnerable to data loss, ransomware, and operational collapse. Drawing from real-world disasters—from hurricanes that wiped out dual data centers to ransomware attacks that encrypted backups—May argues that true resilience comes not from technology alone, but from a disciplined, business-driven approach to disaster recovery (DR). He emphasizes that DR isn't a one-time project but a continuous, evolving process requiring executive ownership, clear RTOs (Recovery Time Objectives) and RPOs (Recovery Point Objectives), and a phased, minimum viable strategy. The most dangerous myth? That 'someone else' is responsible. In reality, every executive is ultimately accountable for their data—and the cost of inaction is not just downtime, but existential risk. May’s framework centers on three pillars: zero trust in vendors (even cloud providers), eliminating the 'truck factor' by documenting and decentralizing knowledge, and treating DR like self-insurance—funded, tested, and maintained monthly. He reveals that most SaaS platforms don’t offer recoverable backups by default, and that third-party tools are essential.
Cloud and SaaS providers do not guarantee disaster recovery—your data can still be lost if backups are in the same environment.
Start with a minimum viable DR plan: even basic backups are better than nothing, and you can scale it over time.
RTO (Recovery Time Objective) and RPO (Recovery Point Objective) must be defined by business impact, not IT preference.
The 'truck factor'—relying on one person who knows the DR process—is a critical risk; document everything and train multiple people.
Zero trust your vendors: even if they’re your cloud provider, assume they can fail or be compromised.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The Myth of Cloud Safety
The episode opens by challenging the assumption that cloud and SaaS providers provide complete disaster protection, setting up the core thesis: even the most reliable infrastructure can fail.
From No to Expert: Tom May's DR Origin Story
“I believe I came to be an expert in this area through the power of no.”
DR Is a Business, Not an IT Problem
“The business drives this. You're not going to have the specialty on your staff.”
RTO and RPO: The Two Metrics That Matter
“You could say, no, I need that email up with zero data loss, and I need it to turn on in two minutes. There are systems that will do that. What if it was a million dollars?”
The Real Threats: Human Error and Malware
Modern disasters are less about natural events and more about human error, ransomware, and insider threats—making security and DR inseparable.
“You could say, no, I need that email up with zero data loss, and I need it to turn on in two minutes. There are systems that will do that. What if it was a million dollars?”
“Now what's the first thing I'm going to hit those backups because they know if you have insurance, they need to deplete your account.”
“My origin story is probably a little unique in that I believe I came to be an expert in this area through the power of no.”
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