1053. Insights: Agentic payments: Revolution or just better orchestration?
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In this episode of Fintech Insider Insights, host Benjamin Ensor explores the emerging concept of agentic payments—where AI agents, rather than humans, make payment decisions on behalf of users. The discussion, featuring Rory O'Neill of Checkout.com, investor Sahar Atari-Poor, and Sam Bobojev of Fintech Wrap Up, dissects the transformative potential and profound challenges of shifting from human-initiated to agent-driven transactions. Key themes include the reimagining of trust, identity, and liability in a world where agents negotiate, purchase, and manage payments autonomously. The panel highlights that while the underlying payment rails remain largely unchanged, the decision layer is fundamentally disrupted, requiring new protocols for agent authentication (Know Your Agent), permission boundaries, and audit trails. Businesses may benefit from reduced branding dependency, as product metadata and API-friendly descriptions become more critical than traditional marketing. However, the biggest hurdles remain around consumer trust, risk allocation, and the lack of a cohesive liability framework. The conversation underscores that agentic commerce is not just about automation but a systemic redesign of digital commerce, with value shifting from checkout interfaces to the intelligence layer that governs agent behavior. The episode concludes with a consensus that trust and liability are the two pillars that must be addressed for agentic payments to become mainstream. Sam advocates for a central regulatory or institutional body to assume liability, while Rory emphasizes building consumer trust through reliability and transparency. Sahar calls for a mindset shift—treating AI agents like limited liability entities with risk tolerance agreements, similar to asset management. The panel agrees that adoption will begin with low-risk, repeat purchases and gradually expand as infrastructure matures. Ultimately, the future of payments lies not in new rails but in rethinking the entire ecosystem around intent, accountability, and human-AI collaboration.
Agentic payments shift decision-making from humans to AI agents, requiring a fundamental redesign of trust, identity, and liability models.
The biggest barrier to adoption is not technology but trust and liability—consumers are wary of agents making purchases without full control.
Branding and traditional marketing are becoming less important; product metadata and API-friendly descriptions are now critical for agent discovery.
Payment service providers must evolve into orchestration platforms that manage multiple protocols, identity layers, and agent interactions.
A central liability framework or regulatory body may be needed to assign responsibility across the agent ecosystem, especially as mistakes occur.
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The Problem with Fragmented Financial Truth
Introduces the core challenge of modern payments: multiple systems with conflicting records, making reconciliation manual and error-prone. Positions Formance as a solution with a unified ledger.
Defining Agentic Payments: From Human to Agent
“Agentic payments are not a new way to move money. They are this shift from user-initiated transaction to basically system-initiated decision-based or predefined intent.”
The Trust and Identity Challenge
“It's not the human anymore or the physical buyer making the transaction, it's an agent. So as Sam said, it's delegated authority. So instead of know the customer, it's know the agent.”
B2B vs. B2C: Where Will Adoption Begin?
“I really think that this process of the translation of the intent to what actually needs to be done for humans, for consumers is a lot more challenging and nuanced.”
The Liability Crisis: Who Is Responsible?
“The current framework again assumes, as you said, explicit intent. We believe that there is a single responsible actor. But agent payments break this all three.”
“I think we need one organization or body that would control liability and said like okay I will take this risk and you guys can rely on me and At that point, then everyone will start trusting more into AGT commerce and payments.”
“The current framework again assumes, as you said, explicit intent. We believe that there is a single responsible actor. But agent payments break this all three.”
“We have zero tolerance for an agent to make a mistake so I really think that it's a little bit of shift in thinking as we do in asset management all the time, having an agreement signed by a human that I have X percent tolerance for loss.”
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Rory O'Neill
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Sam Bobojev
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Sahar Atari-Poor
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Checkout.com
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Benjamin Ensor
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Mastercard
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OpenAI
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Visa
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Formance
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