Best Of: 'Book of Mormon' turns 15 / Actor Clarke Peters

Fresh Air48mJune 13, 2026
AI-Generated Summary

The 15th anniversary of The Book of Mormon on Broadway is celebrated with a candid conversation between original stars Josh Gad and Andrew Rannells, who reveal the show’s controversial origins and their personal struggles with performing it over time. Gad recounts being so intimidated by the song 'Hasadiga Ibuwe'—a satirical expletive disguised as a prayer—that he feared for his safety, while Rannells shares the emotional toll of singing 'I Believe' while voiceless, relying on sheer will to finish. Both reflect on how aging has changed their physical stamina, though their vocal muscle memory remains intact. The episode also features Clark Peters, whose career spans decades from The Wire to the new Netflix series The Burrows, where he challenges ageist casting by refusing to play 'cute' elderly roles. He argues that older people still have agency, passion, and adventure—qualities he embodies in his own life and work. Peters reflects on his journey from New York to London, where he found greater opportunity in theater due to America’s cultural legacy in musicals and the relative openness of British stage casting for Black performers in the 1970s.

Key Takeaways
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The song 'Hasadiga Ibuwe' in The Book of Mormon is a satirical expletive disguised as a prayer, which shocked many audiences and creators alike.

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Josh Gad initially feared for his safety when hearing the song 'Hasadiga Ibuwe' and considered not taking the role due to potential backlash.

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Andrew Rannells performed 'I Believe' while completely voiceless and had to rely on emotional willpower to finish the number, a moment he still recalls with awe.

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Aging has affected physical stamina more than vocal ability for the original cast, with knee strain and difficulty with dance numbers being the main challenges.

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Clark Peters refuses to accept roles that portray older people as 'cute' or passive, insisting that elderly characters should have agency, desire, and adventure.

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The Book of Mormon Turns 15

The Book of Mormon is celebrating its 15th anniversary on Broadway. It received nine Tonys, including Best Musical and Best Score.

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Josh Gad’s Reaction to the Show’s Controversy

I called my agent at the time and I said, I don't think I can do this show. And he said, why? And I said, because I don't want to get killed.

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Andrew Rannells on Singing While Voiceless

I just continued with the show and I was like, I'm going to try to make this work. It was actually remarkable to watch.

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The Evolution of the Show’s Music

The hosts explore how the songs in The Book of Mormon—like 'Man Up' and 'I Believe'—draw from classic musical theater while maintaining a satirical edge.

High-Impact Quotes
I'm not going to slow down just because I'm a septuagenarian. That just does not make sense.
Clark Peters30:36
I called my agent at the time and I said, I don't think I can do this show. And he said, why? And I said, because I don't want to get killed.
Josh Gad0:53
I just continued with the show and I was like, I'm going to try to make this work. It was actually remarkable to watch.
Andrew Rannells17:38
Speakers

Host

Terry Gross

Guests

Josh GadAndrew RannellsClark Peters
Topics Discussed
book of mormon musical95%the wire90%clark peters acting career88%ageism in entertainment85%musical theater history80%london theater scene78%bubbling brown sugar75%voice loss in performers70%
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