974. Under the Hood: Brian Fullerton's Million-Dollar LMN Business Blueprint

Fullerton Unfiltered1h 6mJune 5, 2026
AI-Generated Summary

Brian Fullerton, founder of Brian's Lawn Maintenance, reveals how he transformed his lawn and landscape business from a guessing game into a $1 million+ operation using LMN (formerly Element) software. The key insight? Accurate pricing isn't about gut feelings—it's about capturing every cost: labor burden, unbillable time, equipment overhead, and even payroll taxes. Fullerton shares his 'aha' moment: a $25/hour employee actually costs $54/hour to deploy, requiring a $65/hour billing rate to make a profit. This granular approach allowed him to lower prices while increasing margins, winning 34 commercial accounts and growing revenue 10-20% annually. He emphasizes that the real value of LMN isn't just in its CRM or scheduling tools, but in its integrated budgeting, pricing, and training platform—Greenius—where he’s building custom SOPs and training videos to scale his team without being the bottleneck. The episode dismantles the myth that 'charging more' is the answer, proving that precision beats guesswork at scale. The episode’s most powerful takeaway is that scaling a service business isn't about more trucks or more crews—it's about systematizing every cost, every process, and every training moment so the business can run without you. Fullerton’s journey from overwhelmed entrepreneur to confident operator shows that the right software isn’t a luxury—it’s the foundation of sustainable growth.

Key Takeaways
1

A $25/hour employee actually costs $54/hour to deploy due to overtime, unbillable time, and payroll taxes—requiring a $65/hour billing rate to make a profit.

2

Accurate budgeting and pricing in LMN allowed Brian to lower prices while increasing margins, winning 34 commercial accounts and growing revenue 10-20% annually.

3

The real value of LMN isn't just CRM or scheduling—it's the integrated Greenius training platform, where custom SOPs and training videos are built into the system.

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You can't scale a service business without systematizing every cost, process, and training moment—otherwise, you become the bottleneck.

5

The best software is the one you actually use—LMN’s focus on the landscaping and snow industry, not generic service tools, makes it uniquely suited for this niche.

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Chapters
0:05
2 min

Welcome & Intro: The Real Reason for the Demo

Brian opens the live webinar with energy, setting the stage for an 'under the hood' look at his LMN account. He acknowledges the chaos of the morning—snow runs, travel, and a sleep-deprived brain—but emphasizes the value of seeing real data, not just marketing fluff.

1:52
1 min

Spotlight on the Support Team: Why They’re the Real MVP

If it wasn’t for Bennett and Mike Poffler and Dan and Leslie and a couple other great folks that were part of the team without them, your boy wouldn’t be here. I would have gave up. I would have smashed my keys like a toddler and I gave up.

Highlight
3:19
4 min

The LMN Offer & Why It’s Not a Pitch

Troy walks through the platform’s features—budgeting, estimating, Crew app, job costing, and QuickBooks sync—then reveals a powerful offer: sign up in December, get free onboarding, two free months, and Brian’s code adds a third. The focus is on timing: winter is the perfect time to onboard.

7:21
4 min

The Nucleus of the Business: LMN as the CRM Hub

If somebody says, Brian's on maintenance, what do I think? I think it's my LMN account at this point.

Highlight
11:24
5 min

Budgeting: The Foundation of Accurate Pricing

You're not going to get it all the first time, but just understand like this right here is going to give you the roadmap to bid and price your work accurately and to make profit, right?

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High-Impact Quotes
$25 an hour guy when you take in the overtime factor, the unbillable time, the labor burden, and then the overhead that we're trying to recover that quarter million bucks of overhead from my business added to every hour that we bill out for a break even actually means I have to put my guys out there for $54 an hour.
Brian Fullerton34:58
This is, if somebody says, Brian's on maintenance, what do I think? I think it's my LMN account at this point.
Brian Fullerton8:47
We are only building for you. That's our mission, your success. That's our mission.
Troy Woodham61:53
Speakers

Host

Brian Fullerton

Guests

Troy WoodhamStephen Bennett
Topics Discussed
lmn software95%budgeting for contractors92%scaling a service business91%lawn and landscape business90%pricing strategy for services88%training and onboarding87%greenius training platform86%crew management app85%
People & Brands

LMN

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25xPositive

Brian Fullerton

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12xPositive

Stephen Bennett

person

10xPositive

Troy Woodham

person

8xPositive

Greenius

product

6xPositive

Attentive

product

5xPositive

QuickBooks

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4xNeutral

Granum

brand

3xPositive

Mark Bradley

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3xPositive

Mark Sedgley

person

2xPositive

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