974. Under the Hood: Brian Fullerton's Million-Dollar LMN Business Blueprint
Brian Fullerton, founder of Brian's Lawn Maintenance, reveals how he transformed his lawn and landscape business from a guessing game into a $1 million+ operation using LMN (formerly Element) software. The key insight? Accurate pricing isn't about gut feelings—it's about capturing every cost: labor burden, unbillable time, equipment overhead, and even payroll taxes. Fullerton shares his 'aha' moment: a $25/hour employee actually costs $54/hour to deploy, requiring a $65/hour billing rate to make a profit. This granular approach allowed him to lower prices while increasing margins, winning 34 commercial accounts and growing revenue 10-20% annually. He emphasizes that the real value of LMN isn't just in its CRM or scheduling tools, but in its integrated budgeting, pricing, and training platform—Greenius—where he’s building custom SOPs and training videos to scale his team without being the bottleneck. The episode dismantles the myth that 'charging more' is the answer, proving that precision beats guesswork at scale. The episode’s most powerful takeaway is that scaling a service business isn't about more trucks or more crews—it's about systematizing every cost, every process, and every training moment so the business can run without you. Fullerton’s journey from overwhelmed entrepreneur to confident operator shows that the right software isn’t a luxury—it’s the foundation of sustainable growth.
A $25/hour employee actually costs $54/hour to deploy due to overtime, unbillable time, and payroll taxes—requiring a $65/hour billing rate to make a profit.
Accurate budgeting and pricing in LMN allowed Brian to lower prices while increasing margins, winning 34 commercial accounts and growing revenue 10-20% annually.
The real value of LMN isn't just CRM or scheduling—it's the integrated Greenius training platform, where custom SOPs and training videos are built into the system.
You can't scale a service business without systematizing every cost, process, and training moment—otherwise, you become the bottleneck.
The best software is the one you actually use—LMN’s focus on the landscaping and snow industry, not generic service tools, makes it uniquely suited for this niche.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
Welcome & Intro: The Real Reason for the Demo
Brian opens the live webinar with energy, setting the stage for an 'under the hood' look at his LMN account. He acknowledges the chaos of the morning—snow runs, travel, and a sleep-deprived brain—but emphasizes the value of seeing real data, not just marketing fluff.
Spotlight on the Support Team: Why They’re the Real MVP
“If it wasn’t for Bennett and Mike Poffler and Dan and Leslie and a couple other great folks that were part of the team without them, your boy wouldn’t be here. I would have gave up. I would have smashed my keys like a toddler and I gave up.”
The LMN Offer & Why It’s Not a Pitch
Troy walks through the platform’s features—budgeting, estimating, Crew app, job costing, and QuickBooks sync—then reveals a powerful offer: sign up in December, get free onboarding, two free months, and Brian’s code adds a third. The focus is on timing: winter is the perfect time to onboard.
The Nucleus of the Business: LMN as the CRM Hub
“If somebody says, Brian's on maintenance, what do I think? I think it's my LMN account at this point.”
Budgeting: The Foundation of Accurate Pricing
“You're not going to get it all the first time, but just understand like this right here is going to give you the roadmap to bid and price your work accurately and to make profit, right?”
“$25 an hour guy when you take in the overtime factor, the unbillable time, the labor burden, and then the overhead that we're trying to recover that quarter million bucks of overhead from my business added to every hour that we bill out for a break even actually means I have to put my guys out there for $54 an hour.”
“This is, if somebody says, Brian's on maintenance, what do I think? I think it's my LMN account at this point.”
“We are only building for you. That's our mission, your success. That's our mission.”
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Stephen Bennett
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Troy Woodham
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Mark Bradley
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Mark Sedgley
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