Everyone a Changemaker: Michael Zakaras
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In this episode of Future Hindsight, host Mila Atmos interviews Michael Zakaras, director of Ashoka US, about the transformative power of an 'everyone a changemaker' society. Zakaras argues that democracy thrives not just through institutions and elections, but through a vibrant civil society where every individual feels empowered to act on problems they care about. Drawing from Ashoka’s network of 4,000+ social entrepreneurs, he highlights how early experiences of agency—like a child fixing a broken school bench—can spark lifelong civic engagement. He emphasizes that systemic change requires both individual courage and collective infrastructure, citing examples like Civic Saturdays, TurboVote, and participatory defense initiatives. Despite growing threats to civil society—including government defunding and political targeting—Zakaras remains hopeful, pointing to the resilience of changemakers and the need for societal investment in public problem-solving. He calls for a cultural shift that values civic action as much as private sector success, and introduces tools like the Changemaker Index and changemaker density rate to measure civic health.
Empower every individual with the mindset and support to act on problems, starting early in life.
Civic engagement is not a spectator sport—small, local actions collectively drive systemic change.
Support and structure (like Civic Saturdays or participatory defense) are essential to help people feel effective.
Measure democratic health not just by elections, but by how many citizens feel capable of change.
Protect and invest in civil society—especially during times of political threat.
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The Foundation of Democracy: Civil Society
The episode opens with a discussion on the critical role of civil society—media, universities, NGOs—in holding power accountable and resisting democratic erosion. The host frames democracy as an active practice, not a passive spectator sport.
Introducing the 'Everyone a Changemaker' Vision
“It's a world where problems no longer outrun solutions. It's a world where every person... has the mindset and the confidence and the societal support to step up and take action when something's not working.”
The Power of Small Actions and Collective Infrastructure
“We're not just asking people to figure it out all on their own. They're saying, okay, here's a tool that helps you do better.”
The Symbiosis of Civil Society and Democracy
The conversation explores the reciprocal relationship between civil society and democracy. Civic engagement builds the muscle for democratic participation, and strong democracy protects civil society.
Building the Changemaker Mindset
“What empathy requires is for you to sort of look up from your standardized test and look at the people around you in your class and take some sense of ownership over the collective.”
“Hope with teeth. This is a kind of hope that is not just naive aspirational, but actually when you start to see that things are working, have been working, tap into those stories and those people and those successes that are actually all around us.”
“We're in a moment when this work is so urgent to have that additional dark cloud hovering... People who are doing particularly sensitive work might be targeted, might be named, might lose a particular status.”
“What empathy requires is for you to sort of look up from your standardized test and look at the people around you in your class and take some sense of ownership over the collective.”
Host
Guest
Ashoka US
organization
Michael Zakaras
person
Future Hindsight
media
Civic Saturdays
other
USAID
organization
Eric Liu
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Raj Zayadev
person
Ai-jen Poo
person
Seth Flaxman
person
Ashoka Changemaker Index
product
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