Investing In Yourself
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In this episode of 'Get the Hell Out of Debt,' host Erin Skye Kelly and co-host Carrie Blakeney dive into the concept of 'investing in yourself' through the lens of a 'golden goose'—a lump sum of money that should be used strategically rather than immediately spent on debt or personal luxuries. The episode begins with a fun anecdote about a family game created during a vacation, highlighting creativity and connection. The core discussion centers on a listener’s question about whether starting a business with a golden goose counts as investing in oneself. Erin affirms yes, especially if the goal is to escape a toxic environment, but emphasizes that success requires a disciplined, cash-flow-first approach. She advises building a business by solving real problems, pre-selling services, and avoiding unnecessary expenses until revenue proves viability. The hosts stress the importance of word-of-mouth marketing, client referrals, and gradual growth over flashy branding or upfront investments. They also critique the myth of 'field of dreams' marketing, advocating instead for consistent, boring, repeatable actions that generate real income. The episode concludes with a strong endorsement of the 'Profit First' model, where profit is prioritized before expenses, and a reminder that sustainable growth comes from proven results, not hope or hype.
Use a 'golden goose' lump sum to start a business only if it helps you escape a toxic situation, but prioritize cash flow over immediate spending.
Solve a real problem first—focus on what clients complain about, not just your product or service.
Pre-sell services or offer beta versions to secure paying clients before launching, ensuring immediate cash flow.
Keep startup costs painfully low: avoid fancy websites, logos, and business cards; use existing tools like social media and email.
Apply the 'Profit First' model: set aside profit before expenses to build a sustainable, profitable business.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
Vacation Game & Family Connection
Erin shares a fun, creative game she designed for her family during a vacation, involving secret missions like getting a stranger to take a professional-looking group photo and casually starting a slow clap. The game fostered engagement and laughter, with her youngest child winning all missions.
The Golden Goose Principle Explained
“If the goose lays a golden egg, which means if the golden goose lays a golden egg and that goose now lays eggs. Well, now we have interest on interest on interest on interest when it comes to our money.”
Investing in Yourself: Starting a Business
“If you need to get out of a toxic work environment and you determine what the toxicity is, obviously there's some blanket obvious things, but sometimes it's just an unhealthy alignment. That's all it is and that can become toxic.”
Solving Real Problems, Not Just Selling Services
“The problem is most people don't like paying $300 for cuts. Or the problem is most people come out looking brassy or whatever.”
Pre-Selling, Cash Flow, and the Profit First Model
“Your business should have its own income first. And that gets important because what will happen in a business if you're not careful, again, because a business just chews up all of the cash if it's got cash available.”
“If you need to get out of a toxic work environment and you determine what the toxicity is, obviously there's some blanket obvious things, but sometimes it's just an unhealthy alignment. That's all it is and that can become toxic.”
“I am 100% going to pick sponsoring people into the program to give them a financial literacy course for free versus trying to go get random strangers on the internet to pay attention to me.”
“If the goose lays a golden egg, which means if the golden goose lays a golden egg and that goose now lays eggs. Well, now we have interest on interest on interest on interest when it comes to our money.”
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Erin Skye Kelly
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Carrie Blakeney
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Sharon
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Mint Mobile
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Progressive
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Andy
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Teresa
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Naked Money Meetings
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Profit First
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Suzanne
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