GGACP Rewind: Episode #27: Steve Cox
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In this episode of Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast, host Gilbert Gottfried and co-host Frank Santopadre welcome pop culture historian Steve Cox, a prolific author on classic Hollywood icons. The conversation dives deep into the eccentric lives of the Three Stooges, with Cox sharing intimate, often bizarre anecdotes about Curly Joe Dorita, Joe Besser, and Vernon Dent—revealing their personal quirks, financial struggles, and the surprising legal battle over Stooges royalties that ultimately gave Curly Joe’s family control of the franchise. The discussion expands to the Munchkins of The Wizard of Oz, where Cox dispels myths about their drunkenness and pays tribute to the last surviving Munchkin, Jerry Marin, and the emotional farewell between Marin and Ruth Ducine. Cox also shares behind-the-scenes stories from The Munsters, including the tragic death of Fred Gwynn’s son and the strained relationship between Gwynn and Al Lewis. The episode further explores the darker undercurrents of Abbott and Costello’s comedy, the surreal influence of Sid Fields, and ends with a legendary, if dubious, tale about Danny Thomas’s alleged fetish, backed by a firsthand account from his friend Sid Melton. The episode is a mix of nostalgia, revelation, and dark humor, celebrating forgotten legends with a touch of absurdity. Key takeaways include: 1) The Three Stooges' legacy is now controlled by Curly Joe Dorita’s family due to a posthumous lawsuit, despite his lack of popularity during his lifetime; 2) The Munchkins were not drunks—Judy Garland’s joke about them being alcoholics became a damaging myth; 3) Jerry Marin, the last Munchkin, became a millionaire through McDonald’s commercials as Mayor McCheese; 4) The Stooges’ final member, Curly Joe Dorita, was a kind-hearted man who died in poverty, leading to a legal fight that reshaped the franchise’s ownership; 5) Danny Thomas’s alleged fetish, confirmed by his close friend Sid Melton, adds a surreal footnote to Hollywood’s most beloved sitcoms. The tone is nostalgic, irreverent, and deeply affectionate toward the forgotten figures of old Hollywood.
Curly Joe Dorita’s family now controls the Three Stooges franchise after a posthumous lawsuit against Moe’s heirs.
The Munchkins were not drunks—Judy Garland’s joke about them being alcoholics became a damaging urban legend.
Jerry Marin, the last Munchkin, made millions from McDonald’s commercials as Mayor McCheese.
Curly Joe Dorita was a kind man who died in poverty, despite being the last Stooge.
Danny Thomas’s alleged fetish—having women defecate in his mouth—was confirmed by his best friend Sid Melton.
Opening Chaos & Introducing Steve Cox
The episode opens with a chaotic montage of pop culture references, including Lego Batman and a video game tease, before Gilbert Gottfried introduces Steve Cox, a renowned pop culture author, as the guest. The hosts set the tone with playful absurdity and a deep dive into classic entertainment.
The Stooges: Curly Joe Dorita & Joe Besser
“He showed up at the door in his underwear. In his underwear, just as boxers. That's something I don't want to imagine.”
The Stooges' Legal Battle & Legacy
“The minute he died, his two stepsons... filed suit against Moe's family, which essentially held all the rights and all that, and won.”
The Munchkins: Truth Behind the Myth
“They were embarrassed. And in a way I blame that on Judy Garland really for perpetuating that, putting that out there and making those little people suffer.”
Jerry Marin & The McDonald’s Millions
Cox reveals that Jerry Marin, the last Munchkin, became a millionaire through decades of McDonald’s commercials as Mayor McCheese. He also shares Marin’s pride in roles like the jockey in The Odd Couple.
“You mean the feces as an appetizer. And I said, oh my God. It sounded like a main course. The way I heard it.”
“You know, he liked women to shit in his mouth. In his mouth. This was his fetish.”
“You know, he liked women to shit in his mouth. In his mouth. This was his fetish.”
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Steve Cox
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Gilbert Gottfried
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Three Stooges
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Frank Santopadre
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The Wizard of Oz
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Curly Joe Dorita
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Abbott and Costello
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Danny Thomas
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Joe Besser
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Jerry Marin
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