221 | Grazing Cattle in Vermont: Can a Southern Breed Thrive Up North?
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In this episode of the Grazing Grass Podcast, host Cal Hardidge interviews John Smith, a first-generation farmer from Craftsbury, Vermont, who transitioned from a career in dairy co-op finance to building a regenerative grass-based livestock operation on his family's land. John shares his journey of restoring degraded pastures, raising pigs in the woods, and his pivotal decision to introduce South Pole cattle—a Southern breed—into the harsh northern Vermont climate. Despite initial skepticism about the breed's adaptability, John found that South Poles thrived due to their inherent resilience, heat tolerance, parasite resistance, and ability to thrive on grass alone. His experience highlights the power of patience, community knowledge-sharing, and intentional grazing management. Over time, his pastures have transformed from barren broomstraw fields into lush, diverse ecosystems rich in orchard grass, clover, and vetch—all through rotational grazing and no external seeding. John also discusses challenges like piglet quality decline post-COVID and limited local processing capacity, but remains committed to building a foundation of high-quality South Pole genetics in New England. His story is one of persistence, learning by doing, and the transformative potential of aligning livestock with place.
South Pole cattle, originally bred for Southern heat, thrive in northern Vermont due to their adaptability, parasite resistance, and efficient foraging.
Rotational grazing with high stock density and frequent moves (even multiple times per day) dramatically improves pasture health and soil fertility.
Restoring degraded pastures requires time, patience, and consistent animal impact—no external seed or fertilizer needed.
The regenerative agriculture community is exceptionally collaborative, with breed associations and online educators freely sharing knowledge.
Building a successful grass-based operation starts with a clear vision, learning from others, and taking action—even if imperfectly.
…and 2 more takeaways available in PodZeus
From Dairy Co-op CFO to Grass Farmer
John Smith shares his journey from a career in dairy co-op finance to founding Wandering Brook Farms, driven by a desire for food security and control over his family's food supply after a transformative trip to Colorado.
The Challenge of Finding the Right Cattle
John details the difficulty of sourcing true beef cattle in the Northeast, where dairy crosses dominate. He explains why these animals fail on grass-based systems and how he struggled to find a breed that matched his regenerative vision.
The South Pole Breakthrough
“I was over the top excited. I cannot even express the emotion I had and the gratitude I had to Bruce.”
South Poles Thrive in Northern Vermont
“These South Poles just every measure that every time I turned around, they were fuller. They were laying down, ruminating.”
Pasture Restoration Through Grazing
“Come June, middle of June, it is... Crankin'.”
“I was over the top excited. I cannot even express the emotion I had and the gratitude I had to Bruce.”
“There is no such thing as a North Pole. Don't confuse yourself.”
“These South Poles just every measure that every time I turned around, they were fuller. They were laying down, ruminating.”
Host
Guest
John Smith
person
South Pole cattle
other
Cal Hardidge
person
Wandering Brook Farms
organization
Greg Judy
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Bruce Shanks
person
Noble Research Institute
organization
Redmond Agriculture
organization
Dairy cross
other
Meadowlark Farm
organization
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