267 | ChatGPT Doesn't Know How to Grow Your Podcast (Neither Does Claude)
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In this episode of Grow the Show, host Kev Michael delivers a powerful critique of AI-generated podcast growth advice, arguing that tools like ChatGPT, Claude, and Gemini provide dangerously misleading recommendations. Drawing from eight years of experience growing over 500 podcasts and 30 million downloads, Kev demonstrates how AI systems—trained on flawed conventional wisdom—often promote ineffective strategies like clipping episodes, niche-downing, SEO optimization, and relying on guest sharing. He debunks each myth, explaining why consistency isn't a strategy, clips are gravy not growth fuel, and guest sharing is a myth. Instead, he emphasizes that real growth comes from proven, data-backed frameworks focused on packaging, audience positioning, and leveraging platforms like YouTube through collabs and name recognition. Kev reveals that AI’s advice is only as good as the data it’s trained on—and that data is overwhelmingly wrong because most podcasters fail. The solution? Train AI on your own proven methodology, not generic advice. He invites listeners to join a live workshop to build their own private AI podcast producer trained on his eight-year framework and real-world results. Key takeaways include: 1) AI tools don’t know how to grow podcasts out of the box—they reflect flawed public consensus; 2) The most popular growth tactics (clips, SEO, consistency) are often table stakes or distractions; 3) Real growth comes from strategic packaging, audience specificity, and leveraging high-profile guests via YouTube collabs; 4) You must train AI on your own proven data and frameworks to unlock its true power; 5) Avoid relying on stock AI advice—seek experts with real results, not just theory. The episode ends with a call to action to join Kev’s upcoming workshop to build a personalized AI producer.
AI tools like ChatGPT and Claude give misleading podcast growth advice because they’re trained on flawed conventional wisdom.
Clips, SEO, consistency, and guest sharing are not primary growth strategies—many are distractions or table stakes.
True podcast growth comes from strategic packaging, audience specificity, and leveraging YouTube collabs with high-profile guests.
You must train AI on your own proven methodology—not generic advice—to unlock its real power.
The most effective growth strategy is to build a private, custom AI assistant trained on your show’s data and proven frameworks.
AI Growth Advice Is Wrong—Here’s Why
“If you followed this advice, you would waste months and thousands of dollars and wonder why nothing is working.”
Debunking the Top 5 AI Growth Myths
“Clips are not a podcast growth strategy. They are a gravy strategy.”
Why Conventional Wisdom Fails Podcasters
Kev explains that conventional podcast growth advice is wrong because it’s based on data from failed podcasts. He highlights that 75% of podcasts get fewer than 100 downloads per episode, and most advice comes from companies selling tools, not experts with results.
The Real Growth Strategies That Work
“Appearing as a guest on top podcasts in your niche is the number one fastest growth tactic.”
How to Use AI the Right Way
“The real power of AI isn't in what it knows, it's in what happens when you train it on what you know.”
“The real power of AI isn't in what it knows, it's in what happens when you train it on what you know.”
“Appearing as a guest on top podcasts in your niche is the number one fastest growth tactic.”
“Clips are not a podcast growth strategy. They are a gravy strategy.”
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