Nat & Naomi: Girlhood & Adult Friendships | #95
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In this deeply personal and intimate episode of Head Over Heels Podcast, hosts Maggie, Nat, and Naomi explore the evolution of adult friendships, vulnerability, and self-growth. The conversation unfolds in a newly renovated studio, setting a warm and reflective tone as the three women share their journeys of identity, friendship dynamics, and emotional resilience. They discuss how their friendship has matured over years, the importance of intentional connection, and the challenges of maintaining relationships in a high-pressure industry. Key themes include the shift from expecting one friend to 'carry your whole life' to embracing multiple roles in different relationships, the power of curiosity and presence in conversations, and the courage it takes to confront limiting beliefs—like Nat’s long-held belief that she couldn’t run. The trio also reflect on how they’ve changed over time, the pain of unreciprocated friendships, and the emotional intelligence required to navigate conflict with grace. Their candid talk about anger, emotional regulation, and self-worth reveals a profound understanding of personal growth, making this episode a heartfelt exploration of what it means to be seen, known, and loved as you truly are.
Friendships are not one-size-fits-all—different people serve different roles in your life, and it’s healthy to accept that.
Limiting beliefs (like 'I can’t run' or 'I’m not enough') can shape your life, but they can be unlearned with intention and practice.
True friendship requires emotional safety, curiosity, and the courage to be vulnerable without expectation.
Anger is often rooted in fear or disappointment, not just irritation—understanding the 'why' helps you respond with wisdom.
You don’t have to be friends with everyone, and it’s okay to let go of relationships that no longer serve you.
…and 2 more takeaways available in PodZeus
Welcome to the New Studio & the Power of Safe Space
“I built this podcast from the studio, the team, the episodes, the editing, none of it is easy. And the one thing that really keeps us going is knowing that you are here, you are listening.”
The Evolution of Friendship: From Childhood to Adult Bonds
The women reflect on how their friend groups have shifted from childhood and school-based friendships to more intentional, low-maintenance adult connections. They discuss the myth of having 'a lot of friends' and the pressure to perform friendship, emphasizing that quality over quantity matters.
Curiosity Over Judgment: The Art of Being Present
“When I meet someone, I look at your face. I look at your eyes. I look at how you are. I don’t look at a score. I meet you there.”
The Myth of the 'One True Friend' and Emotional Load-Sharing
“No one person is meant to carry your whole life. That person can be everything but not all at once.”
The Courage to Change: Overcoming Limiting Beliefs
“I spent the next decade working really hard, not ever thinking I was smart enough for any occasion.”
“I spent the next decade working really hard, not ever thinking I was smart enough for any occasion.”
“When I meet someone, I look at your face. I look at your eyes. I look at how you are. I don’t look at a score. I meet you there.”
“No one person is meant to carry your whole life. That person can be everything but not all at once.”
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Maggie
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Naomi
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Nat
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KL
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Head Over Heels Podcast
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Ben
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Lenovo (Malaysian sofa maker)
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Therapy
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Ninsou
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Singapore
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