Healthcare De Jure: Paul Havey, Chief Client Officer, Revecore
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In this episode of Healthcare NOW Radio, host Matt Fisher welcomes Paul Havey, Chief Client Officer at RevitCore, to discuss the complexities of healthcare revenue cycle management, with a focus on claims denials and the evolving role of technology. Havey explains that the revenue cycle follows the patient journey, from clinical care to billing and payment, and highlights three major challenges: denials, underpayments, and complex claims—especially those involving medical necessity or prior authorization. He notes that while administrative denials have decreased due to improved processes, more subjective and high-value denials have risen, creating significant financial and operational strain. The increasing use of AI by payers to issue denials at scale has intensified the burden on providers, prompting a technological arms race. RevitCore leverages AI and deep subject matter expertise to help hospitals appeal denials and recover lost revenue, emphasizing that human expertise remains essential despite automation. Havey predicts a shift toward proactive, predictive models that anticipate risks before they become issues, though systemic change remains slow. The episode concludes with a key insight: denials are not universally preventable due to an ever-evolving landscape, and the focus should be on effective response and recovery rather than perfection.
Denials are not always preventable—many emerge from evolving payer rules and subjective clinical judgments like medical necessity.
AI is being used by both payers and providers, creating a technological arms race that requires human expertise to guide and validate outcomes.
The shift from reactive to proactive, predictive revenue cycle management will help hospitals anticipate and avoid denials before they occur.
Low-dollar denials, though individually insignificant, accumulate into major revenue losses due to the high cost of appealing them.
Human subject matter expertise remains critical, especially in complex cases, and is increasingly scarce and valuable.
Introduction and Guest Overview
Host Matt Fisher introduces the episode and welcomes Paul Havey, Chief Client Officer at RevitCore, who provides an overview of the company's mission in revenue cycle management and his professional background.
Understanding the Revenue Cycle Lifecycle
Havey explains the revenue cycle as a parallel process to the clinical journey, covering documentation, invoicing, payment, and reconciliation, with a focus on post-submission challenges.
Types of Denials and Underpayments
“A denial is a refusal by the health insurance company to pay the claim as invoiced from the hospital.”
The Evolution of Denials and Systemic Challenges
“The law of unit-level economics should and often do prevail.”
Technology's Role: AI and the Arms Race
“It is a back and forth game. The same tools and technologies to issue the denials are being brought forward to really combat them as well.”
“Denials are not universally preventable... despite numerous prevention strategies that may be deployed, the denial landscape continues to evolve.”
“I would predict that time will tell, you know, how long will that take? But I think it will enable a more forward-looking approach anticipating in an ideal scenario heading off these issues at the past.”
“A denial is a refusal by the health insurance company to pay the claim as invoiced from the hospital.”
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