Healthcare De Jure: Paul Havey, Chief Client Officer, Revecore

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In this episode of Healthcare NOW Radio, host Matt Fisher welcomes Paul Havey, Chief Client Officer at RevitCore, to discuss the complexities of healthcare revenue cycle management, with a focus on claims denials and the evolving role of technology. Havey explains that the revenue cycle follows the patient journey, from clinical care to billing and payment, and highlights three major challenges: denials, underpayments, and complex claims—especially those involving medical necessity or prior authorization. He notes that while administrative denials have decreased due to improved processes, more subjective and high-value denials have risen, creating significant financial and operational strain. The increasing use of AI by payers to issue denials at scale has intensified the burden on providers, prompting a technological arms race. RevitCore leverages AI and deep subject matter expertise to help hospitals appeal denials and recover lost revenue, emphasizing that human expertise remains essential despite automation. Havey predicts a shift toward proactive, predictive models that anticipate risks before they become issues, though systemic change remains slow. The episode concludes with a key insight: denials are not universally preventable due to an ever-evolving landscape, and the focus should be on effective response and recovery rather than perfection.

Key Takeaways
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Denials are not always preventable—many emerge from evolving payer rules and subjective clinical judgments like medical necessity.

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AI is being used by both payers and providers, creating a technological arms race that requires human expertise to guide and validate outcomes.

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The shift from reactive to proactive, predictive revenue cycle management will help hospitals anticipate and avoid denials before they occur.

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Low-dollar denials, though individually insignificant, accumulate into major revenue losses due to the high cost of appealing them.

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Human subject matter expertise remains critical, especially in complex cases, and is increasingly scarce and valuable.

Chapters
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2 min

Introduction and Guest Overview

Host Matt Fisher introduces the episode and welcomes Paul Havey, Chief Client Officer at RevitCore, who provides an overview of the company's mission in revenue cycle management and his professional background.

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3 min

Understanding the Revenue Cycle Lifecycle

Havey explains the revenue cycle as a parallel process to the clinical journey, covering documentation, invoicing, payment, and reconciliation, with a focus on post-submission challenges.

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5 min

Types of Denials and Underpayments

A denial is a refusal by the health insurance company to pay the claim as invoiced from the hospital.

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10:00
5 min

The Evolution of Denials and Systemic Challenges

The law of unit-level economics should and often do prevail.

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15:00
5 min

Technology's Role: AI and the Arms Race

It is a back and forth game. The same tools and technologies to issue the denials are being brought forward to really combat them as well.

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High-Impact Quotes
Denials are not universally preventable... despite numerous prevention strategies that may be deployed, the denial landscape continues to evolve.
Paul Havey25:31
Viral: 92.0
I would predict that time will tell, you know, how long will that take? But I think it will enable a more forward-looking approach anticipating in an ideal scenario heading off these issues at the past.
Paul Havey24:00
Viral: 88.0
A denial is a refusal by the health insurance company to pay the claim as invoiced from the hospital.
Paul Havey6:34
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Matt Fisher

Guest

Paul Havey
Topics Discussed
Revenue Cycle Management95%Claim Denials90%Proactive Revenue Cycle88%AI in Healthcare85%Prior Authorization80%Underpayments75%Payer-Provider Relations70%Healthcare Data Security40%
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Paul Havey

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RevitCore

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Matt Fisher

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Medicare Advantage

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Managed Medicaid

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Congress

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Healthcare NOW Radio Podcast Network

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