This Just In Radio: HIMSS26 with Hal Wolf and Michael Giannopoulos
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This episode of This Just In Radio, live from HIMSS26 in Las Vegas, features host Justin Barnes interviewing two prominent healthcare leaders: Hal Wolff, CEO of HIMSS, and Michael Giannopoulos, founder and CEO of All Paths Group. Wolff reflects on the transformative energy of this year’s conference, now consolidated on a single campus with over 25,000 attendees, and highlights the maturation of AI across healthcare—from concept to widespread implementation with measurable ROI in clinical, financial, and administrative domains. He emphasizes AI’s role in bending the cost curve and enabling a deflationary model in healthcare, while also underscoring the global expansion of HIMSS and the importance of local chapter engagement. Giannopoulos shifts focus to human-centered leadership, advocating for healthcare leaders to 'be the patient' through Gemba walks to uncover systemic gaps. He champions narrow, high-impact AI applications—particularly in supply chain and logistics—and stresses that trust, governance, and data integrity are paramount in the age of AI. Both guests converge on a central theme: technology must serve the patient, and human connection remains irreplaceable. The episode closes with a call to action for leaders to engage face-to-face, build trust, and prioritize meaningful change over technological novelty.
AI is no longer experimental—this year’s HIMSS shows widespread, measurable ROI across clinical, financial, and administrative functions.
Healthcare leaders must redesign business practices to match new technologies, not the other way around.
The health model (consumer-driven, preventive care) has outpaced the medical model; the medical system should leverage it for primary/secondary prevention.
Trust in data and systems is the foundation for AI adoption—governance and policy must be prioritized over speed and features.
Narrow AI applications in supply chain and logistics deliver faster ROI than broad, 'boil the ocean' initiatives.
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Welcome to HIMSS26: Energy, Scale, and Vision
Host Justin Barnes welcomes listeners to the live broadcast from HIMSS26 in Las Vegas, setting the stage with excitement for the event’s scale and energy. He introduces Hal Wolff, CEO of HIMSS, and sets the tone for a forward-looking discussion on healthcare innovation.
AI Maturity and the Deflationary Future of Healthcare
“We're trying to accomplish two things. We're trying to bend the cost curve... Our main goal of success in five to ten years from now is can we actually create a deflationary curve here through the use of technology?”
Global Expansion and the Power of Local Chapters
Wolff shares HIMSS’s global growth—over 130,000 members, with two out of five outside North America—and underscores the importance of local chapters in driving change. He highlights government-led digital health initiatives in Europe, Asia-Pacific, and the Middle East using HIMSS maturity models.
The Health Model vs. Medical Model: A Paradigm Shift
“The medical model for all the reasons it always does... a little bit slow, a little defensive. Doesn't want to go through change that radically. Meanwhile, because of AI, machine learning, etc., the health model has taken off.”
Leadership in the Age of AI: Readiness and Human-Centered Design
“New technology plus old organization equals costly old organization.”
“We can no longer have technology for the sake of technology... The most important thing over the next two to three years is building that trust.”
“There's nothing more dangerous in my mindset than an EMR that's been opened up to an agent that is injecting poison data or... synthetic data into an EMR code base.”
“AI will force us to be more human. There is a point in time where if I can't speak to you, I will no longer have an engagement policy, an engagement mindset with you.”
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