S11 E2: The Witching Hour

Heaven Bent43mApril 20, 2026

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In this deeply personal and enlightening episode of *Heaven Bent*, host Tara Jean Stevens continues her exploration of religious trauma with guest Sabina Magliocco, a retired professor of anthropology and religion. The conversation centers on dismantling the myth of the 'evil witch' rooted in Western folklore, Christian doctrine, and historical persecution. Magliocco traces the evolution of witchcraft from ancient wisdom keepers—cunning folk who healed with herbs and rituals—to the demonization of women during the medieval and early modern periods, culminating in the mass witch hunts that claimed tens of thousands of lives. She debunks the visual tropes of witches (broomsticks, pointy hats, cauldrons) as products of early modern printing and urban fear, not reality. The episode also examines the psychological roots of the 'witching hour,' reframing it not as supernatural but as a liminal time when anxiety, grief, and isolation surface in the silence of night. Stevens reflects on how the term 'witch' is still weaponized today, particularly against women who challenge patriarchal norms, and explores the modern reclamation of witchcraft as a form of empowerment, especially within Wicca and neo-paganism. Ultimately, the episode becomes a meditation on reclaiming the body, nature, and ritual—elements suppressed by evangelical Christianity—and a call to heal from religious fear through embodied, mindful connection with the world.

Key Takeaways
1

The historical 'witch' was often a healer and knowledge-keeper, not a demon; the demonization of witches was a tool of social control.

2

The 'witching hour' is not supernatural but a psychological phenomenon tied to nighttime anxiety, grief, and isolation.

3

Witchcraft accusations have long been used as a weapon against women, especially those who challenge patriarchal or religious authority.

4

Modern witchcraft and neo-paganism are acts of reclamation—turning a negative stereotype into a source of empowerment, wisdom, and connection to nature.

5

The body and the physical world are not evil; they are sacred creations that evangelical Christianity often taught to fear.

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Chapters
0:00
10 min

The Legacy of the Evil Witch

Tara Jean Stevens introduces the episode, setting the stage for a deep dive into the cultural and historical myths surrounding witches, particularly as shaped by Christian doctrine and folklore. She welcomes Sabina Magliocco, a leading scholar on witchcraft and religion.

10:00
12 min

From Healer to Demon: The Evolution of the Witch

These people had a very important role to play before the advent of biomedicine and people revered them for their healing powers, but they also could be suspicious of them as well because people who knew how to heal might also know how to hurt people.

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21:40
12 min

The Birth of Diabolical Witchcraft

The witch not simply as an evil person who causes harm to neighbors and relatives... but as an agent of the devil, as someone who must be a kind of form of social pollution that has to be completely eliminated in order for the kingdom of God to exist.

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33:20
12 min

The Witching Hour: Myth vs. Mind

When we wake up in the middle of the night, it's often because we've maybe had a bad dream or because our fears and anxieties are kind of roiling about. I mean, I think, or perhaps we've suffered some sort of grief and we wake up in the middle of the night and we remember the source of our grief.

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45:00
12 min

Witchcraft as a Weapon and a Reclamation

When right society persecutes immigrants, takes people who are in the country legally and locks them up and tortures them, separates mothers and children, is intent on starving large percentages of the population... then the opposite of that is actually something good.

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High-Impact Quotes
The witch not simply as an evil person who causes harm to neighbors and relatives... but as an agent of the devil, as someone who must be a kind of form of social pollution that has to be completely eliminated in order for the kingdom of God to exist.
Sabina Magliocco12:43
Viral: 90.0
When right society persecutes immigrants, takes people who are in the country legally and locks them up and tortures them, separates mothers and children, is intent on starving large percentages of the population... then the opposite of that is actually something good.
Sabina Magliocco33:35
Viral: 88.0
The witch is often conceptualized as the opposite of right society. But when right society is in and of itself damaging, then the opposite of that is actually something good.
Sabina Magliocco54:40
Viral: 87.0
Speakers

Host

Tara Jean Stevens

Guest

Sabina Magliocco
Topics Discussed
Witchcraft Stereotypes95%The Witching Hour92%Historical Witch Hunts90%Witchcraft as Feminist Reclamation88%Religious Trauma and Healing85%Modern Paganism and Wicca80%Psychology of Fear and Nighttime Anxiety78%Body Positivity and Embodiment75%
People & Brands

Tara Jean Stevens

person

20xPositive

Sabina Magliocco

person

15xPositive

Heaven Bent

media

8xPositive

Catholic Church

organization

6xNegative

Salem Witch Trials

other

5xNegative

Evangelical Christianity

other

4xNegative

Old Testament

other

3xNegative

Witching Culture

book

3xPositive

Disney

organization

3xNeutral

Isabel Gowdy

person

3xPositive

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