Last Looks: The Manitou w/ Ashley Ray

How Did This Get Made?59mJune 12, 2026
AI-Generated Summary

The guest argues that the 1978 horror film *The Manitou* wasn't just a bad movie—it was a cultural artifact of its time, built on real 1970s hospital hygiene horrors, paranormal hoaxes, and a deep-seated fear of the body's violation. The episode reveals that the film’s infamous 'baby in the chest' scene likely stems from a real medical condition—mediastinal teratomas—rather than supernatural birth. Listeners confirm the film’s absurd hospital carpeting and shared hand-washing jugs were terrifyingly accurate. The most shocking revelation? During 1920s spiritualist seances, mediums actually created wax molds of hands and even produced a human butt mold—proving the film’s eerie head-in-a-jar scene had a real, if bizarre, precedent. The episode culminates in a bizarrely specific 'new parent emergency kit' for demonic births, a parody of the film’s own logic. Yet beneath the laughs, the episode exposes how *The Manitou* taps into real anxieties about medical negligence, bodily autonomy, and the uncanny—making it a surprisingly prescient relic of a decade obsessed with both fear and the grotesque. The show then pivots to a deep dive into the current TV landscape with comedian and critic Ashley Ray, who champions *Widow’s Bay* as a genre-defying masterpiece blending horror and comedy with emotional depth. She praises its ensemble cast, particularly Matthew Rhys’s Chaplin-esque performance and the show’s ability to balance absurdity with genuine tension.

Key Takeaways
1

Mediastinal teratomas—tumors that grow teeth and hair—are the real medical basis for the 'baby in the chest' scene in *The Manitou*, not supernatural birth.

2

1970s hospitals used wall-to-wall carpeting that emitted toxic fumes when cleaned, and shared hand-washing jugs were standard—making the film’s setting terrifyingly accurate.

3

In 1920s spiritualist seances, mediums created wax molds of hands and even a human butt mold, proving the film’s head-in-a-jar scene had real historical precedent.

4

The 7-minute Alka-Seltzer scene in *The Manitou* was not padding—it was a deliberate, surreal joke that foreshadowed the film’s absurdity and may have been early product placement.

5

Matthew Rhys’s performance in *Widow’s Bay* is a masterclass in physical comedy, blending Charlie Chaplin’s physicality with genuine emotional weight.

…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus

Chapters
0:00
4 min

Opening Theme and Show Announcements

Paul Scheer kicks off the episode with a playful intro, thanking listeners and promoting the show's new theme song by Dan from Rochester. He invites listeners to submit songs, taglines, and voicemails via hdtgm.com and Discord. He also plugs upcoming live shows, a tribute shirt for Averill Halley, and the new trailer for June Show Elle.

3:55
7 min

Corrections and Omissions: The Real Medical Truth Behind The Manitou

I would guess that this supposed real case in Tokyo was the case of a mediastinal teratoma and not some sort of real baby being grown in the middle of a kid's chest.

Highlight
10:35
7 min

Discord Insights and the Wax Mold Hoax

At one seance, the attendees asked him to produce a face mold instead of the usual hand mold. And the wax mold he produced ended up resembling a human butt more than a face.

Highlight
17:30
13 min

Just Chat: Ashley Ray’s Favorite New TV Shows

I think she can carry, you know, if you go to Perry Mason or you she can do heavy, very weighty stuff. Very intense, emotionally available stuff. Orphan Black, incredible. But then she can turn and she Hulk be hilarious.

Highlight
30:07
26 min

TV Deep Dive and Final Show Announcements

It is a family circus in more ways than one—dangers, tears, love and laughter. It all happens under the big top.

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High-Impact Quotes
However, at one seance, the attendees asked him to produce a face mold instead of the usual hand mold. And the wax mold he produced ended up resembling a human butt. more than a face.
Scott14:12
So if I had to guess, I would guess that this supposed real case in Tokyo was the case of a mediastinal teratoma and not some sort of real baby being grown in the middle of a kid's chest.
Linnell5:50
Like, I think she can carry, you know, if you go to Perry Mason or you she can do heavy, very weighty stuff. Very intense, emotionally available stuff. Orphan Black, incredible. But then she can turn and she Hulk be hilarious.
Ashley Ray31:42
Speakers

Host

Paul Scheer

Guest

Ashley Ray
Topics Discussed
the manitou movie95%1970s hospital hygiene90%spiritualism seances88%mediastinal teratomas85%adult animated tv80%reality tv addiction75%tv comedy trends70%cultural nostalgia65%
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Paul Scheer

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Widow's Bay

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Ashley Ray

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Circus Island

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The Fallen Rise of Reggie Dinkins

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Dark Winds

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Matthew Rhys

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5xPositive

Tatiana Maslany

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4xPositive

Averill Halley

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4xPositive

Scott Sani

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