184. An Alley, A Cause, and Really Good Pizza ft. John Carruthers
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In this three-part episode of 'I Am Consciously Curious,' Victor Chan sits down with John Carruthers, the visionary behind Crust Fun Pizza, a monthly alley pop-up in Chicago that blends handmade pizza with charitable giving to local nonprofits. John traces his journey from growing up in McHenry County, Illinois, to discovering Chicago through Polish Catholic Mass and family dinners, and later building a career in journalism in rural Hawaii before returning to the city. What began as a simple family pizza night during the pandemic evolved into a powerful community ritual, driven by his belief in authenticity, connection, and small acts of generosity. He reflects on the challenges of modern journalism, critiques the manipulative nature of platforms like Substack, and champions the value of creating meaningful work on one’s own terms. His experiences in Rogers Park, working multiple jobs while pursuing grad school, led to transformative moments—like hosting a campus radio show and forming a deep friendship with food writer Jesse—that ultimately inspired his pivot into food consulting. John’s work extends globally, including a high-profile project to launch tavern-style pizza in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, where he shared Chicago’s culinary identity with pride and purpose. He remains critical of exploitative systems in the food industry, from delivery apps to the three-tier beer distribution model, advocating instead for sustainable, equitable, and transparent models rooted in community and fairness. John’s vision for the future centers on Crossfundpizza.com, a platform that offers transparent, month-by-month updates on fundraising and charitable impact, and a dream of a nonprofit food hall funded by philanthropy that provides living wages, financial openness, and diverse culinary experiences. He emphasizes that true innovation comes not from chasing trends but from mastering fundamentals and sharing knowledge. Despite challenges like post-pandemic foot traffic declines, he remains hopeful, inspired by entrepreneurs who 'get shit done' and by cultural celebrations like the Filipino event hosted by Shai. The episode closes on a note of gratitude and forward momentum, underscoring the power of collective action, authentic connection, and the joy found in ritual, generosity, and food as a shared human experience.
Start small and stay authentic—Crust Fun Pizza began as a family ritual and grew into a community-driven movement rooted in connection, not virality.
True innovation in food comes from mastering fundamentals and sharing knowledge, not chasing trends or relying on exploitative systems.
Sustainability in hospitality requires rethinking models: prioritize living wages, transparency, and community ownership over profit-driven, app-dependent operations.
Cultural exchange through food is powerful—sharing Chicago’s pizza traditions globally fosters connection and pride.
Philanthropy and collective investment can fuel innovative, equitable food models beyond traditional brick-and-mortar constraints.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The Birth of Crust Fun Pizza: A Pandemic Ritual
“When the pandemic hit, John, a writer and lifelong pizza obsessive, felt the helplessness that most of us did. What started as a weekly family ritual became something stranger and more beautiful.”
John's Chicago Roots and Journey to the City
John reflects on his upbringing in McHenry County, Illinois, and how his connection to Chicago began through Polish Catholic Mass and family dinners. He shares how the city’s energy, diversity, and cultural life drew him back after college, despite initial suburban roots.
From Journalism to Pizza: The Evolution of a Purpose
John discusses his early career in journalism, including reporting in rural Hawaii and working for a medical magazine in Schaumburg. He reflects on the decline of traditional media, the pitfalls of social media, and his decision to create meaningful work on his own terms.
The Power of Small Moments: From a Dog’s Name to a Life’s Pivot
“It's just the show. Like everything you're watching is just the show.”
The Grind: Balancing School, Work, and Identity in Chicago
John recounts the intense, exhausting years of working multiple jobs while attending DePaul’s graduate program. From commuting to Schaumburg in a car with no AC to class from 6 to 9 PM, he describes the physical and emotional toll of trying to prove himself while staying true to his values.
“Almost 7,000 miles away from home, share a bit of, like, you know, your culture and your upbringing. Yeah, yeah. And they latch onto it. And they not only like it, but, like, they master it and then they're taking that and then offering it elsewhere.”
“I didn't even have my surf safe at the time and I'm like, well, I can't sell food illegally. So I might as well not sell alcohol legally either.”
“You can't let what's happening politically rob you of your joy because then they win.”
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John Carruthers
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Crust Fun Pizza
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Substack
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Victor Chan
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DePaul University
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Block Club
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Crust Fund
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