Is This the Web?
The web may be more than just what runs in a browser—its identity is evolving beyond traditional boundaries. In a deep dive on Igalia Chats, Dan Applequist, W3C Advisory Board co-chair and long-time web pioneer, challenges the very definition of 'the web' in an era where web technologies power everything from airline check-in apps and NHS digital services to smart thermostats and even spacecraft. He argues that the web is not a fixed platform but a living, amorphous ecosystem—its value lies not in technical purity but in shared principles like openness, accessibility, privacy, and resilience. The real danger isn't technological obsolescence, but losing sight of what makes the web uniquely human: its fault tolerance, its ability to survive errors, and its capacity to serve people even when things go wrong. The conversation reveals that the web’s strength is its inclusivity—its ability to absorb new forms, from web views in native apps to AI agents acting on our behalf—while still upholding core ethical standards. The episode ends not with a definition, but a call to action: we need better language—like 'web platform' and 'user agent'—to reason clearly about where the web begins and ends, especially as regulations like the EU’s Cyber Resilience Act begin to treat web apps differently based on their context. The discussion underscores that the web’s survival isn’t guaranteed by code, but by culture.
The web is defined not by where it runs, but by its core principles: openness, accessibility, privacy, and resilience—not just browser-based execution.
Web views in native apps (like NHS, airline check-in, or AliPay mini apps) are still 'the web' if they use web standards and benefit from web security and accessibility features.
The term 'web platform' is more precise than 'the web'—it refers to browser-engine APIs and standards, not all web-adjacent technologies.
Regulations like the EU’s Cyber Resilience Act (CRA) treat web apps in native apps differently than standalone websites, making clear definitions critical for compliance.
The web survives not because of technical superiority, but because of its human-centric design: it ignores errors, keeps working, and serves users even when broken.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
Introducing the Web's Identity Crisis
“The web is not a platform. It’s a people-based system. This is for everyone.”
Beyond the Browser: The Web in Native Apps
Dan uses real-world examples—NHS app, airline check-in, and AliPay mini apps—to argue that web technologies used in native apps are still 'the web' if they follow web principles like openness, linkability, and accessibility.
Why the Definition Matters: Ethics, Regulation, and Work Priorities
The discussion shifts to practical consequences: if something isn’t 'the web,' it may not need to follow web security, privacy, or accessibility standards. This has real-world implications for apps in healthcare, transportation, and finance.
The Web Platform vs. The Web: A Necessary Distinction
The hosts explore the idea that 'web platform' is a narrower, more precise term than 'the web'—referring specifically to browser-engine APIs and standards, while the web itself is a broader, more amorphous ecosystem.
The 2015 'Web App' Talk: When JavaScript Became a Requirement
“If it absolutely requires 100% JavaScript in order to render anything... it is not a thing of the web.”
“Like if it absolutely requires 100%. JavaScript in order to render anything. It is not a thing of the web.”
“But the one sure losing bet in technology is to bet against the web.”
“You could argue that the web interprets insularity as damage and routes around it.”
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W3C
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Dan Applequist
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Eric Meyer
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Brian Cardell
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Cyber Resilience Act
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NHS app
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Samsung Open Source Group
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AliPay
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V8
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Node.js
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