Will The R2 Be The Hit Rivian Needs? w/ Jason Fenske of Engineering Explained
Rivian's R2 is poised to be the electric crossover that finally makes the company viable, according to Jason Fenske of Engineering Explained and Inside EVs hosts Tim Levin and Mac Hogan. After driving the R2, Fenske was surprised to find himself genuinely wanting to own it—a rare reaction for a media drive—praising its practicality, refined ride, and thoughtful simplification of the R1S’s over-engineered systems. The R2 trades the R1S’s complex hydraulic anti-roll suspension for a more reliable, coil-spring setup with adaptive dampers, resulting in a car that’s both capable off-road and enjoyable on pavement. While the R2 isn’t perfect—software quirks with the haptic steering wheel and lingering usability issues remain—it represents a major leap in cohesiveness and user experience. In contrast, Fenske’s experience with the Lucid Air was marred by persistent software bugs, including unresponsive door handles, profile recognition failures, and even a dangerous roll mode glitch. Despite Lucid’s engineering excellence, its software instability and unclear brand positioning threaten its long-term survival. The episode argues that Rivian’s success hinges on reliability and scaling production, while Lucid must solve its software and identity crises. Meanwhile, Toyota’s chairman Akio’s nostalgic defense of gas engines earns a 'minus,' while Mexico’s government-backed EV startup Olinia, with its $8,600 Uno, earns a 'plus' as a bold bet on local manufacturing in a protectionist world.
The Rivian R2 fixes the R1S’s over-engineered suspension with a simpler, more reliable coil-spring system that delivers a better ride and off-road articulation.
Rivian’s brand identity—tying outdoor adventure to tech-savvy lifestyle—gives it a clear, desirable niche that Tesla’s Model Y lacks.
The R2’s 3-inch higher ground clearance than the Model Y makes it practical for real-world terrain, not just marketing imagery.
Lucid Air’s software issues—door handles, profile switching, and roll mode glitches—were persistent and serious enough to make the car unsafe to drive.
Lucid’s biggest problem isn’t hardware—it’s software stability and a lack of clear brand identity, making it hard to stand out in a crowded market.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
Intro: The Future of EV Startups
The hosts introduce the episode’s focus on Rivian’s R2 launch and the broader challenges facing EV startups like Lucid, setting the stage for a deep dive into product execution, brand identity, and long-term viability.
Rivian R2 First Impressions
“I am one of those people that I was assessing, do I want to own this thing? And my answer is yes, I do want to own that thing.”
R2 vs. R1S: The Suspension Tradeoff
“I think you're absolutely right, Jason. It's so much of it is just they've made so many tradeoffs in taking it from being like a supercar level... into like, oh wow, this is just like a really well-considered overall package.”
R2’s Practicality and Brand Positioning
“This is the Subaru of EVs a decade ago, like doing all the right things. Yeah. None of the nonsense doing the right things.”
Software Quirks in the R2
Fenske shares frustrations with the haptic steering wheel, particularly the finicky left/right scrolling and back-button clicks, which can cause accidental inputs.
“The only time that I got concerned was when I had it switch the roll mode from hold to roll. So when you let off the brake, it just automatically starts rolling and the whole time I'd owned it.”
“And in this case, I am one of those people that I was assessing, do I want to own this thing? And my answer is yes, I do want to own that thing.”
“This is the Subaru of EVs a decade ago, like doing all the right things. Yeah. None of the nonsense doing the right things.”
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Rivian R2
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Lucid Air
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Jason Fenske
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Model Y
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Toyota
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R1S
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Inside EVs
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Akio Toyota
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Gravity
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Olinia
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