Love, Loss and Mourning Paul Auster, with Siri Hustvedt

Intelligence Squared39mMay 16, 2026

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In this poignant episode of Intelligence Squared, acclaimed novelist and essayist Siri Hustvedt reflects on her 43-year marriage to the late writer Paul Auster through her deeply personal memoir, Ghost Stories. The conversation, hosted by Maithili Rao, traces their meeting in 1981 at a poetry reading in New York, their shared life as obscure artists navigating rejection and creative devotion, and the profound intimacy forged through mutual admiration of each other’s work. Hustvedt explores the dual grief of losing Auster to cancer and earlier losing their stepson Daniel to a drug overdose, revealing how she wove these tragedies into a narrative that honors both love and loss. She discusses the book’s innovative structure—using letters, fragments, and prose blocks—to mirror the fragmented nature of memory and mourning. Throughout, Hustvedt emphasizes the resilience found in routine, the power of shared inner lives, and the importance of humor and connection in the face of despair. The episode culminates in a meditation on how personal grief intersects with political dread in a fractured world, urging readers to resist despair through continued engagement with life’s rhythms and forms.

Key Takeaways
1

Grief is not a solitary experience—shared human suffering fosters compassion and humor.

2

True partnership in art and life thrives on mutual admiration, not overshadowing, and shared vulnerability.

3

The organic model of love—like a tree that grows and adapts after storms—is more resilient than mechanical, repetitive relationships.

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Memory and mourning can be shaped into art through fragments, letters, and structure, creating a living testament to love.

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Political despair and personal loss often intertwine, but resistance to despair is found in daily rituals and continued creation.

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Chapters
0:00
3 min

Introduction and Context: The Legacy of Paul Auster

The episode opens with a commercial break, followed by the introduction of Siri Hustvedt and her new memoir, Ghost Stories, which reflects on her life with Paul Auster, a writer whose work defined a generation of literary New York.

2:30
5 min

The Beginning of a Lifelong Love: Meeting Paul Auster

I took him home that night, and that was the beginning of what turned out to be a very long love affair.

Highlight
7:30
5 min

Love as Mutual Admiration: The Foundation of a Creative Partnership

If Paul and I had not admired, mutually admired the other person's work, the marriage would have foundered.

Highlight
12:30
8 min

Grief and Memory: The Fragmented Nature of Loss

Time was fragmented for me. I had a completely other radically changed sense of time.

Highlight
20:00
10 min

The Letters to Miles: A Bridge Between Past, Present, and Future

The episode explores the inclusion of Paul Auster’s unfinished letters to his grandson Miles, which serve as both a personal legacy and a narrative device that allows Paul’s voice to live on in dialogue with Hustvedt’s own story.

High-Impact Quotes
Despair can become seductive when you're grieving, to just give it up. But that, as you said earlier, that movement toward the abyss is hugely dangerous.
Siri Hustvedt31:45
Viral: 92.0
If Paul and I had not admired, mutually admired the other person's work, the marriage would have foundered.
Siri Hustvedt7:19
Viral: 90.0
The media attention turned everyone involved into monstrous beings. And this is really rarely the case.
Siri Hustvedt24:30
Viral: 88.0
Speakers

Hosts

Maithili RaoMia Sorrenti

Guest

Siri Hustvedt
Topics Discussed
Grief and Mourning95%The Organic Model of Love92%Creative Partnership in Marriage90%Political Grief and National Despair88%Memory and Narrative Structure85%Intergenerational Legacy83%Art and Obscurity80%Fame and Public Scrutiny75%
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Paul Auster

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Maithili Rao

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Ghost Stories

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Daniel

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15xMixed

Miles

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10xPositive

Intelligence Squared

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Sophie

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Lydia Davis

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Spencer

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