The Age of Growth: Live in Partnership with IBM
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In this live episode of Intelligence Squared's 'The Age to Come' series, hosted in partnership with IBM, Kamal Ahmed leads a dynamic discussion on the future of sustainable, equitable growth in the age of AI. Featuring experts Laura Gilbert (Tony Blair Institute), Lee Ellis (Royal London), and Prashant Jodhia (IBM Consulting), the conversation explores how the UK can position itself as a global leader in AI innovation without falling into the trap of technological hubris. Key themes include the critical importance of public trust, the need for long-term strategic investment over short-term hype, and the transformative potential of AI in public services—illustrated by real-world examples like AI-driven NHS appointment systems and fraud detection in healthcare. The panel emphasizes that success lies not in replicating US or Chinese tech dominance, but in leveraging the UK’s strengths in regulated industries like finance and healthcare through vertical AI adoption. They also stress the necessity of building flexible, resilient business models and fostering internal talent through hands-on AI training, rather than relying on top-down policy mandates. The episode concludes with a call for international collaboration on open-source AI infrastructure to ensure digital sovereignty and global equity in the AI era.
Focus on vertical AI adoption in UK strengths like finance, healthcare, and fintech rather than chasing horizontal tech dominance.
Build public trust by starting with clear problems (e.g., 22,000 annual deaths from bad prescriptions) rather than promoting AI as a solution in isolation.
Prioritize long-term, patient capital investments over short-term AI hype to de-risk transformation and ensure sustainable growth.
Embed AI training through hands-on, problem-solving experiences—not just videos or theory—to drive real workforce adoption.
Develop flexible business architectures (e.g., universal 'USB-C' interfaces) to prepare for future AI-driven disruption in value chains.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The Promise of AI and the Age of Growth
Introduction to the episode's theme: how AI is reshaping growth, with IBM's role in driving innovation through hybrid cloud, responsible AI, and global research in semiconductors and quantum computing.
The UK’s AI Ambition and the Risk of Hubris
Discussion on the UK’s position as the third-largest AI market globally, with massive foreign investment pledges. The panel questions whether this momentum is sustainable without clear strategic direction.
AI in Public Services: From Trust to Transformation
“When you start from the problem and say, do you realize that we're killing 22,000 people a year? Suddenly this is a good story.”
Inside the Enterprise: Royal London’s AI Journey
“We're not just making our day easier. We're thinking about how to disrupt the value chain.”
The Myth of Predictability and the Power of Experimentation
“You can give them Claude and say, well, look, tell you what you can go now and you can enter in Claude saying make me the game Frogger. And it will go and do that for you.”
“When you start from the problem and say, do you realize that we're killing 22,000 people a year? Suddenly this is a good story.”
“If you go into a room with anyone, and particularly a very senior person or a minister, and you say to them, here's a lovely bit of data that shows you're wrong. The impact of that is you don't get invited to the next meeting.”
“Working together, I think in the open source space with other countries to build shared services is, I think, the way you actually approach your own sovereignty.”
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IBM
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Laura Gilbert
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Lee Ellis
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Prashant Jodhia
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Royal London
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ChatGPT
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Tony Blair Institute
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Agentic AI
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NHS England
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Copilot
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