Daniel Defoe, writer and spy

Late Night Live - Separate stories podcast25mApril 8, 2026

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This episode of Late Night Live explores the lesser-known role of Daniel Defoe not just as the author of Robinson Crusoe, but as a secret agent for the English government in early 18th-century Scotland. Host David Marr speaks with historian Mark Mirowski, whose book A Spy Amongst Us reveals how Defoe was recruited by Robert Harley to infiltrate Scottish opposition to the Act of Union between England and Scotland. Defoe, a failed businessman and pamphleteer who had previously been imprisoned for satire, used his Presbyterian faith and linguistic fluency to gain trust among Scottish dissenters while secretly gathering intelligence and undermining resistance. He operated as a double agent, writing anonymous pamphlets that shaped public opinion, sabotaged alliances between radical Presbyterians and Highland clans, and helped ensure the Union passed. Mirowski argues that Defoe’s work marked a turning point in the history of espionage and political manipulation, laying groundwork for modern intelligence and propaganda. The episode also draws compelling parallels between Defoe’s spy work and his later fiction, particularly Robinson Crusoe and Moll Flanders, where themes of isolation, deception, and survival echo his real-life experiences. Despite moral qualms about lying, Defoe justified his actions as serving a higher moral purpose—preserving national unity. Key takeaways include: Defoe’s espionage was instrumental in securing the Union, not just through covert operations but through shaping historical narrative; his use of fiction as a tool of political influence foreshadowed modern propaganda; the deep connection between narrative craft and deception in both spy and novelist roles; and the enduring legacy of his work in how the Union is remembered. The episode challenges the myth of Defoe as a mere novelist, revealing him instead as a pioneering figure in statecraft and psychological warfare.

Key Takeaways
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Daniel Defoe was a secret agent for England in Scotland, playing a crucial role in securing the 1707 Act of Union.

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His espionage involved infiltration, propaganda, and sabotage of opposition groups, including radical Presbyterians and Highland clans.

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Defoe’s work helped shape the historical narrative of the Union, writing the first comprehensive history of the event.

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His fiction, especially Robinson Crusoe and Moll Flanders, reflects his real-life experiences of isolation, deception, and survival.

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Defoe’s moral conflict over lying in service of a greater good mirrors the ethical dilemmas of modern intelligence work.

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4 min

The Hidden Life of Daniel Defoe

Defoe was a fabulous failure, wasn't he? He has to be one of history's worst business people.

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5 min

From Business Failure to Spy

Explores Defoe’s string of failed business ventures—civet cats, bricks, and tiles—and how his economic failures led him to espionage after being imprisoned for satire.

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6 min

The Hoax That Got Him Arrested

Details Defoe’s satirical pamphlet The Shortest Way with the Dissenters, which falsely advocated for the extermination of dissenters, leading to his arrest and imprisonment in Newgate.

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6 min

Defoe’s Mission in Scotland

He is a key agent in the end in Scotland. Mark, remind me, I must have known at some point, but remind me. Scotland and England had a common monarch since James I. Why now was there this notion that the two kingdoms should actually merge into one country with one parliament?

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4 min

Legacy: Spy, Historian, and Novelist

I think really his achievements are twofold. In the moment he was there on the ground making sure the Union Treaty passed the Scottish Parliament. But perhaps more significantly, he was ensuring that the Union was represented and understood in a certain way that may allow for its continuation.

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High-Impact Quotes
I think really his achievements are twofold. In the moment he was there on the ground making sure the Union Treaty passed the Scottish Parliament. But perhaps more significantly, he was ensuring that the Union was represented and understood in a certain way that may allow for its continuation.
Mark Mirowski19:42
Viral: 90.0
Had we known he was a spy amongst us, the mob would have torn him to pieces.
John Clark of Pinnacook17:13
Viral: 88.0
Defoe was a fabulous failure, wasn't he? He has to be one of history's worst business people.
David Marr2:26
Viral: 85.0
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David Marr

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Mark Mirowski
Topics Discussed
Daniel Defoe's espionage95%The Act of Union 170790%Spying and fiction88%Political manipulation85%Historiography and narrative control80%Presbyterian identity and politics75%The moral dilemma of lying72%Defoe's business failures70%
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