Does Australia's culture of remembrance need updating?

Late Night Live - Separate stories podcast22mApril 20, 2026

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In this episode of Late Night Live, host David Maher speaks with military historian Peter Stanley about the evolving nature of Australia's wartime commemoration, particularly focusing on Anzac Day. Stanley argues that the culture of remembrance, long rooted in mourning and Christian ritual, must adapt to Australia's increasingly diverse and secular society. He highlights how Anzac Day has transformed from a somber, quiet observance into a loud, celebratory event, disconnected from the lived experience of most Australians today. With fewer families having direct ties to war dead and a growing population of refugees and migrants who have experienced war firsthand, Stanley calls for a more inclusive approach that acknowledges 'other people's wars'—such as those of Sudanese, Afghan, and Iranian communities—as well as the frontier conflicts that shaped Australia's history. He criticizes the Australian War Memorial for resisting change, particularly in its slow and hesitant engagement with the frontier wars and its exclusion of non-Christian, non-military voices. The episode also raises urgent concerns about the desecration of the Gaza War Cemetery, questioning why Australia remains silent despite its deep investment in global war remembrance.

Key Takeaways
1

Anzac Day has shifted from mourning to celebration, no longer reflecting the lived trauma of most Australians.

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Australia's commemoration culture must evolve to include the war experiences of refugees and migrants who have lived through 'other people's wars'.

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The Australian War Memorial's reluctance to embrace pluralism—especially regarding frontier conflicts and non-Christian rituals—undermines its relevance.

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The memorial's disproportionate focus on the 1% floor space for frontier wars, despite their massive human cost, is a symbolic and historical injustice.

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There is a moral and civic imperative to acknowledge the trauma of former child soldiers and war-affected migrants on national commemoration days.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

The Cost and Culture of War Remembrance

David Maher opens the episode by referencing historian Peter Stanley's observation that Australia spends more per war dead than any other nation, highlighting the nation's deep investment in commemorating war. Stanley questions whether this tradition must evolve as Australia changes.

2:00
3 min

From Mourning to Celebration: The Evolution of Anzac Day

Anzac Day has always changed. So what do you see as the challenges to the way in which we will celebrate Anzac Day in the near future?

Highlight
5:00
4 min

Demographic Change and the Crisis of Relevance

If we're not careful, we'll have a society which has a sector of it which has at times intense but mostly pretty lukewarm connection to Anzac Day and another large minority that feels no connection to Anzac Day.

Highlight
9:00
5 min

The Problem of Christian Monopoly and Exclusion

We've got to speak to each other if this day is to maintain its relevance and its importance.

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14:00
5 min

Frontier Wars and the War Memorial's Hesitation

Giving them 1% when they represent about half of the number of Australians who've died in war since 1788. I mean, that's, I think, insulting.

Highlight
High-Impact Quotes
Giving them 1% when they represent about half of the number of Australians who've died in war since 1788. I mean, that's, I think, insulting.
Peter Stanley10:34
Viral: 88.0
What about those former child soldiers? What do they feel on Anzac Day? Do they feel recognized and acknowledged? I bet they don't.
Peter Stanley17:50
Viral: 85.0
If we're not careful, we'll have a society which has a sector of it which has at times intense but mostly pretty lukewarm connection to Anzac Day and another large minority that feels no connection to Anzac Day.
Peter Stanley4:37
Viral: 82.0
Speakers

Host

David Maher

Guest

Peter Stanley
Topics Discussed
Anzac Day Evolution90%War Commemoration and Inclusion88%Frontier Wars Recognition85%Diversity and Pluralism in National Memory82%Refugee and Migrant War Experiences80%Australian War Memorial Governance78%Christianity in Public Ritual75%War Cemeteries and Global Remembrance70%
People & Brands

Peter Stanley

person

25xPositive

Australian War Memorial

organization

18xMixed

David Maher

person

12xPositive

Gaza War Cemetery

place

6xNegative

Commonwealth War Graves Commission

organization

5xNegative

Australian Rationalist Association

organization

3xPositive

Brendan Nelson

person

2xNegative

Boeing

organization

2xNegative

Ray Kirko

person

2xPositive

Kim Beasley

person

2xPositive

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