US 'may stop by Cuba' after Iran, says Trump
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This episode of Late Night Live explores the escalating geopolitical tension between the United States and Cuba, prompted by recent statements from former U.S. President Donald Trump suggesting the U.S. may 'stop by Cuba' after dealing with Iran. Journalist John Lee Anderson, a longtime observer of Cuba and author of a biography on Che Guevara, joins host David Maher to analyze the current crisis. Anderson describes a Cuba in deep economic collapse—marked by blackouts, shortages, and a mass exodus of nearly 2 million people since 2021—while still maintaining a militarized, revolutionary state structure. Despite the regime's unpopularity, Cubans may resist foreign invasion out of national pride, not loyalty to the government. The discussion delves into the influence of Cuban-American elites in Florida, particularly Marco Rubio, whose measured but firm approach contrasts with Trump’s provocations. Anderson warns that while a full-scale military invasion is unlikely due to risks of chaos and mass migration, the U.S. is applying extreme economic pressure—cutting oil supplies and enforcing blockades—as a form of coercive diplomacy. The episode ends with a chilling metaphor: the U.S. is not invading, but slowly suffocating Cuba by squeezing its oxygen tube.
Cuba is facing a severe economic and humanitarian crisis, with widespread shortages, blackouts, and over 1.8 million people fleeing since 2021.
The U.S. is using economic pressure—especially oil blockades—not just to punish the regime but to force political concessions, including a multi-party system.
While a military invasion is unlikely due to risks of civil war and mass migration, the U.S. is applying 'slow suffocation' tactics to weaken Cuba’s resilience.
Cuban military and revolutionary structures remain strong and prepared for resistance, even if the population lacks loyalty to the regime.
Marco Rubio’s diplomatic approach—calm, strategic, and psychologically attuned to Cuban identity—stands in contrast to Trump’s provocations.
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Cuba in Crisis: The Collapse of a Nation
“Things were bad on the island when we discussed Cuba's problems a couple of months ago. The US had cut off oil, food was short, garbage was rotting in the streets. Now things are much, much worse as the island is threatened with invasion.”
The Military and Revolutionary Legacy
Anderson details Cuba’s long-standing military culture, its global revolutionary past, and how the Revolutionary Armed Forces remain a dominant economic and political force on the island.
U.S. Motives: History, Exiles, and Power
The episode examines the deep-rooted U.S. interest in Cuba—geopolitical, historical, and driven by Cuban-American political power in Florida, especially under Trump and Rubio.
The Great Exodus: From Havana to Florida
“The island's economy imploded, especially after COVID. Before COVID, the island was existing. You know, it has a number of things it exports, but not much.”
The Regime’s Weakness and the People’s Disillusion
Despite the regime’s longevity, Anderson argues that most Cubans no longer support it. The youth-led protests of 2021 revealed deep dissatisfaction with the future, leading to mass emigration.
“I think they're trying to do it simply by effectively walking to the ICU. There's a man there with an oxygen tube, and he's coming and squeezing it with his fingers, and that's kind of the way they're trying to do it.”
“The U.S. is not invading, but slowly suffocating Cuba by squeezing its oxygen tube.”
“Things were bad on the island when we discussed Cuba's problems a couple of months ago. The US had cut off oil, food was short, garbage was rotting in the streets. Now things are much, much worse as the island is threatened with invasion.”
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Donald Trump
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David Maher
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Marco Rubio
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