Ep274 - Buddy Spohn from Lateral K9
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In this episode of Life With Your Dog, host Panos welcomes Buddy Spohn, founder of Lateral Canine Training, for a candid and insightful conversation about his journey from a passionate dog owner to a full-time dog trainer and entrepreneur. Buddy shares his origin story—starting with a dog he adopted in his late 20s, which led him to seek training, and ultimately inspired a career shift from construction estimating to dog training. He credits early mentorship from Brad Griggs and exposure to top-tier trainers like Michael Ellis and Dave Croier for shaping his foundational knowledge and avoiding the common pitfalls of online dog training misinformation. Now operating independently from ProDog, Buddy emphasizes the importance of 'lateral thinking'—addressing root causes rather than symptoms—and the emotional and practical challenges of running a dog training business. He discusses the critical role of interpersonal skills, compassion, and client rapport in training, warning against condescension in the industry. A passionate advocate for scent work, Buddy reveals his upcoming course that teaches odor conditioning using scientifically sound methods, contrasting it with common flawed practices. He also explores the deeper value of play as a primary reinforcer and a tool for mental stimulation, especially for high-drive working breeds. The episode closes with a powerful discussion on the ethical responsibility of trainers to have difficult conversations about rehoming when a dog is not a good fit for a home, emphasizing transparency, relationship-building, and long-term dog welfare over financial gain.
Focus on root causes, not just symptoms—use 'lateral thinking' to solve dog behavior issues at their source.
Client rapport and empathy are more important than technical knowledge; avoid condescension and meet clients where they are.
Scent work training should prioritize odor conditioning over food-based associations to build reliable, independent search behavior.
Play is a powerful primary reinforcer and should be integrated into training to build motivation, mental stimulation, and bonding.
Running a dog training business requires mastering business skills—marketing, finance, systems, and delegation—not just training expertise.
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Buddy’s Origin Story: From Ice Hockey Dream to Dog Trainer
Buddy shares his journey from dreaming of being a professional ice hockey player to adopting a dog in his late 20s, which sparked his passion for dog training. He reflects on how his early life, lack of dog experience growing up, and career shift from construction to teaching shaped his path.
The Mentorship That Changed Everything: Brad Griggs and the Power of Guidance
“I was sitting there in front of the whiteboard with him, I'm like, this is different and I'm going to end up doing this, but I just don't know how yet.”
Lateral Thinking: Solving Problems Beyond the Surface
“We have to think lateral. Even in sport work and stuff that I coach because I do a lot of stent work and I'm just starting to get into retrieving and everyone's like, A to B, A to B, A to B. I'm like, well, that's... A to B isn't always the fastest road depending on the dog.”
The Hidden Cost of Condescension in Dog Training
“You started somewhere girl. You started somewhere and it was not where you are right now.”
Scent Work Revolution: Teaching Dogs to Find Odor, Not Just Food
“We're going to teach a dog how to actually like condition to odor. We're going to teach them how to indicate where I want our dog actually to freeze whether they sit or stand or drop.”
“I'm just letting you know before we continue. It's like usually in these sort of situations, it may come up that we may need to move a dog on. It may not be safe.”
“We have to think lateral. Even in sport work and stuff that I coach because I do a lot of stent work and I'm just starting to get into retrieving and everyone's like, A to B, A to B, A to B. I'm like, well, that's... A to B isn't always the fastest road depending on the dog.”
“You started somewhere girl. You started somewhere and it was not where you are right now.”
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Buddy Spohn
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Panos
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Luke Badman
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Lateral Canine Training
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ProDog
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Malinois
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Brad Griggs
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Tobias Gustafson
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Dave McKelson
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Jiu-Jitsu
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