Episode 135, Colorado Blue Spruce with Todd Schlafer
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In episode 135 of *Little Things for Bonsai People*, host Evan Pardue welcomes Todd Schlafer, founder of First Branch Bonsai in Denver, Colorado, to discuss the Colorado blue spruce as a pioneering bonsai species. Todd shares his journey from a corporate art director to a full-time bonsai professional, highlighting how mentorship from figures like Jerry Morris and Harold Sasaki shaped his path. The conversation dives deep into the history of conifer bonsai in Colorado, particularly the rise of blue spruce after Ponderosa pines dominated early collections. Todd emphasizes the blue spruce’s resilience, adaptability, and forgiving nature—making it ideal for beginners while still offering rich potential for advanced artists. He details unique care practices, including post-collection handling, repotting timelines, and the importance of timing digs before bud break. A key theme is the genetic and morphological differences between blue spruces collected from ground versus rock, with the latter showing earlier growth and more drought tolerance. Todd also discusses the species’ natural affinity for alpine and multi-apex styles, advocating for preserving their wild character rather than forcing them into traditional forms. The episode closes with practical advice on sourcing material, the value of patience in development, and a passionate plea to let blue spruces remain true to their nature. Key takeaways include: 1) Colorado blue spruce is one of the most forgiving and versatile conifers for beginners and intermediates; 2) Timing is critical—dig before bud break and avoid repotting too soon; 3) Trees from rock environments are more drought-tolerant and grow faster than those from ground; 4) Let the tree’s natural form guide your design—favor alpine and wild styles over rigid traditional forms; 5) Avoid grafted nursery stock for authentic, long-term bonsai development. The tone is enthusiastic, educational, and deeply appreciative of the species’ unique character and potential.
Colorado blue spruce is highly forgiving and suitable for beginners due to its resilience and ability to recover from mistakes.
Collecting blue spruce before bud break and using shade post-collection significantly increases survival rates.
Blue spruces from rock environments grow faster and are more drought-tolerant than those from ground soil.
Let the natural wild form of the tree guide your design—favor alpine, multi-apex, and textured slab styles over rigid traditional forms.
Avoid grafted nursery stock; seek raw, collected material for authentic bonsai development and long-term growth.
Welcome & Weather Report
Evan and Carmen kick off the episode with a lighthearted weather update from across the U.S., including tornadoes in Michigan, extreme heat in Louisiana, and a freeze warning in Colorado. They set a playful tone while highlighting regional contrasts.
Introducing Todd Schlafer & Bonsai Origins
“I quit my corporate job to do bonsai. That's me. That's a cool hero or villain story. Origin story, I'm not sure which.”
History of Colorado Bonsai & Pioneering Species
“For the most part, it was a lot of limbers. There was a lot of ponderosa. There was a lot of Rocky Mountain junipers.”
Care & Collection: Blue Spruce Secrets
“They can stay like a little more wet and they don't soak as much. Where I found like Douglas firs... they tend to suffer.”
Genetics, Growth, and Design Philosophy
“Don't domesticate them too much. Let them be spruces and let them grow like spruces.”
“Don't domesticate them too much. Let them be spruces and let them grow like spruces.”
“I quit my corporate job to do bonsai. That's me. That's a cool hero or villain story. Origin story, I'm not sure which.”
“They can stay like a little more wet and they don't soak as much. Where I found like Douglas firs... they tend to suffer.”
Hosts
Guest
Todd Schlafer
person
Evan Pardue
person
Ponderosa Pine
other
Carmen Leskoviensky
person
First Branch Bonsai
organization
Jerry Morris
person
Harold Sasaki
person
Underhill Bonsai
organization
Douglas Fir
other
Denver Botanic Gardens
organization
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