Episode 39: Calm Before The Storm? With Vincent Deluard
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The market's calm amid escalating Middle East tensions may be a dangerous illusion, warns Vincent Deluard, Director of Global Macro at StoneX. He argues that the current bull market is not pricing in the long-term structural damage from geopolitical conflict—especially the permanent erosion of U.S. dominance, a weakened dollar, and a new, more aggressive Iran. Deluard contends that U.S. treasuries, once the ultimate safe haven, have lost their protective function, now acting as a geopolitical weapon used by adversaries to pressure U.S. policy through yield spikes. With no clear replacement for treasuries as a risk-off asset, he suggests the yen could emerge as a new, underappreciated safe haven—backed by Japan’s massive reserves, historical ties to Iran, and a strong defensive floor at 160. The episode ends on a sobering note: the market is pricing in zero risk of escalation, despite troop movements and historical precedents suggesting war often spirals beyond intent. Deluard’s broader thesis—what he calls the 'end of the 500-year human intelligence bubble'—hints at a secular bear market ahead, driven by the collapse of Western exceptionalism and democratic stability. Deluard’s analysis challenges the notion that markets are rational or forward-looking. Instead, he sees a dangerous disconnect: investors are chasing momentum while ignoring deep structural risks.
U.S. treasuries are no longer a safe haven; they’re now a geopolitical weapon used by adversaries to pressure U.S. policy via yield spikes.
The yen could become the new safe haven due to Japan’s $1.2 trillion reserves, historical ties to Iran, and a strong defensive floor at 160.
Markets are pricing in zero risk of escalation despite troop movements and historical patterns showing war often spirals beyond control.
The collapse of the post-WWII international order has undermined the foundation of the 'safe asset' system that allowed the U.S. to run deficits cheaply.
Investors must ask: 'Are you trading or investing?' If you're not trying to time the market, you still need to position for a world that may not return to 'normal'.
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The Calm Before the Storm
Maggie Lake opens the episode questioning why markets remain calm despite escalating Middle East tensions and uncertain ceasefire talks, setting the stage for Vincent Deluard’s bearish analysis.
Markets Are Pricing in Zero Risk
“The market is pricing absolutely zero chance of that. Which makes me nervous and I hope we are wrong and I hope the market is right.”
The Death of the Safe Haven
“If my model is right, they would tend to be an asset that actually underperformed during risk-off episodes.”
The Yen as the New Safe Haven
“Japan and Iran have been very close, very tied. There is a long historical culture thing. And you see that today.”
The Logic of War and Escalation
“One great book on world war one it's a i think it's called the sleepwalker and it goes around this like no one thought that you know the assassination of the archiduc francois ferdinand... would lead to war.”
“The market is pricing absolutely zero chance of that. Which makes me nervous and I hope we are wrong and I hope the market is right.”
“The end of the 500 year human intelligence bubble, but we'll have to talk about next time.”
“If my model is right, they would tend to be an asset that actually underperformed during risk -off”
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Maggie Lake
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