Ep. 119 - Liberal Arts, What Are They Good For? with Steven Cortright
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In this deep and reflective episode of The Magnus Podcast, host Joshua Mazarin and guest Steve Cortright, co-founder of Albertus Magnus Institute, explore the true meaning and enduring value of the liberal arts. They trace the term 'liberal' back to its ancient roots in Cicero and Greek enkupios paidaia, revealing that liberal arts are not about political liberalism but about freeing the mind to become a capable, virtuous citizen of both the earthly and spiritual common good. The episode unpacks the traditional structure of the liberal arts—grammar, logic, rhetoric (the trivium) and arithmetic, geometry, astronomy, and music (the quadrivium)—as disciplines that cultivate intellectual discipline, rational thought, and the ability to navigate life's complexities with clarity and purpose. Cortright contrasts this with modern education's utilitarian turn, where schools label themselves 'liberal arts' while prioritizing job-specific training, leading to career rigidity and alienation. He argues that the genuine liberal arts foster personhood, enabling individuals to think critically, communicate effectively, and adapt across diverse vocations. Drawing on thinkers like St. Thomas Aquinas, Joseph Pieper, and St. John Henry Newman, the conversation emphasizes that true education is not about securing a job but about forming the whole person—spiritually, intellectually, and morally—so they can live with wisdom, virtue, and joy in any calling. The episode closes with a powerful affirmation of Catholic liberal education as a path to adventure, not career, and a lifelong journey of learning and service.
Liberal arts are not political but 'freeing arts' that cultivate the mind to become a virtuous, capable citizen of both earthly and spiritual communities.
The traditional liberal arts—grammar, logic, rhetoric, arithmetic, geometry, astronomy, and music—form a holistic curriculum that teaches how to think, not just what to think.
Modern 'liberal arts' education often degenerates into utilitarianism, training for narrow jobs and leading to career rigidity and alienation.
True liberal education fosters personhood: the ability to be at home in the world, communicate clearly, and engage with truth and beauty.
The liberal arts are not just preparatory—they are a form of 'natural liturgy,' a lifelong practice of love, admiration, and service to truth.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The True Meaning of 'Liberal Arts': Freedom, Citizenship, and the Soul
“Liberal means free in Cicero's language, but free means on the one side liberated from all of the disabilities that would keep you from being useful to your fellow citizens. And on the other side, endowed with those habits of thought and self-control that make your help to fellow citizens availing.”
The Trivium and Quadrivium: The Architecture of Human Knowing
“The three and the four, the threefold and the fourfold, one, encapsulate how it is we human beings manage to know as rational creatures. We pose questions through speech and we pursue them through measurement, analogy, comparison.”
The Renaissance Hangover: How Modern Education Lost Its Way
“In the humanities, what we now call the humanities, theory means the apology I make for my peculiar opinions. In the sciences, theory means the hypothesis I propose for testing and improvement.”
Liberal Arts as the Art of Personhood: Beyond Function to Being
“Before we're lawyers or podcasters or firemen or housewives, we're persons. And what it means to be a person is to be capable of establishing communion and communication with all things, of being at home in the world.”
The Wager of Liberal Education: Freedom, Adaptability, and Life as Adventure
The episode explores the long-term benefits of liberal arts education: the ability to adapt across careers, avoid tunnel vision, and thrive in uncertainty. Drawing on St. John Henry Newman, Cortright affirms that Christians don’t have careers—they have adventures. The liberal arts prepare one for life’s unpredictable journey.
“Christians don't have careers. They have adventures.”
“Seek first the kingdom of God and its righteousness, and all these other things will be added to you.”
“Liberal means free in Cicero's language, but free means on the one side liberated from all of the disabilities that would keep you from being useful to your fellow citizens. And on the other side, endowed with those habits of thought and self-control that make your help to fellow citizens availing.”
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Steve Cortright
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Joshua Mazarin
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Albertus Magnus Institute
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Cicero
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St. Thomas Aquinas
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Magnus Institute
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St. John Henry Cardinal Newman
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Greek ekklesia
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Joseph Pieper
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Jean-Baptiste Vico
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