One wild year of Trump's tariffs
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This episode of Make Me Smart examines the lasting impact of President Trump's 'Liberation Day' tariffs over the past year, focusing on how small businesses across the U.S. have been affected despite not being directly involved in international trade. Host Kimberly Adams speaks with Justine Kahn, founder of Botnia Skincare in Sausalito, California, and Will Sissel, co-owner of Sissel & Daughters Cheesemongers in Portland, Maine, both of whom describe how tariffs on imported materials—like aluminum packaging and European essential oils—have drastically increased their costs, forcing them to absorb expenses, rethink packaging, and adjust pricing strategies. While the Supreme Court struck down some tariffs, many remain in effect, leaving businesses in limbo. The episode also features insights from Scott Lincecum of the Cato Institute, who notes that key promises—like boosting manufacturing and reducing the trade deficit—have not materialized, with the trade balance unchanged and manufacturing output only marginally up. Despite the uncertainty, both business owners emphasize transparency with customers and community support as key to survival. The broader economic picture remains unclear, with manufacturers still cautious due to ongoing policy shifts. The episode underscores a central irony: while tariffs were intended to protect American industry, small businesses that produce domestically are bearing the brunt of the costs. The emotional toll is palpable, with business owners describing the stress of constant decision-making and the moral dilemma of raising prices versus cutting staff or quality. Yet, many are holding on through communication, creative customer incentives, and community loyalty. The takeaway is that trade policy changes have far-reaching, often unintended consequences—especially for small, values-driven enterprises. The episode ends with a call to support public media, reinforcing the show’s mission of informed, accessible economic conversation.
Small businesses that manufacture domestically are still heavily impacted by tariffs on imported raw materials and packaging.
Many small business owners are absorbing tariff costs rather than passing them on to consumers, affecting growth, salaries, and hiring.
Transparency and community trust are critical tools for maintaining customer loyalty amid rising prices.
The Supreme Court has struck down some tariffs, but uncertainty remains about refunds and future policy.
Promised economic benefits—like increased manufacturing output and reduced trade deficits—have not materialized.
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Introduction: The Cost of Tariff Chaos
The episode opens with a public media appeal and introduces the central theme: the economic fallout of President Trump's 'Liberation Day' tariffs over the past year, with a focus on small businesses.
Botnia Skincare: The Hidden Costs of Domestic Production
“What used to cost, you know, if we placed a $10,000 order now costs us $15,000.”
Sissel & Daughters: Surviving the Tariff Storm
“We're just riding it as chaotic as it is.”
The Bigger Picture: Economic Promises vs. Reality
“Looking at like a 1% increase in manufacturing output is that's not the boom we were promised.”
The Human Cost: Small Business Resilience in Crisis
The episode closes with reflections on the emotional toll of policy instability, the importance of community, and the resilience of small business owners who are holding the line despite economic pressure.
“What used to cost, you know, if we placed a $10,000 order now costs us $15,000.”
“Looking at like a 1% increase in manufacturing output is that's not the boom we were promised.”
“The reality is that due to all of the changes to the tariffs last year... manufacturers spent most of last year sitting on their hands.”
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Justine Kahn
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Will Sissel
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Sissel & Daughters Cheesemongers
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Kimberly Adams
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Botnia Skincare
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Scott Lincecum
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Liberation Day Tariffs
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Supreme Court
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Make Me Smart
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Cato Institute
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