Consumers might see some tariff refunds — in 2036

Marketplace25mMay 4, 2026

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This Marketplace episode explores a range of economic developments and policy challenges, beginning with the surprising resilience of U.S. manufacturing despite ongoing global uncertainty, tariffs, and energy shocks. Despite the volatility in the Middle East and rising jet fuel prices, data shows strong demand in electronics and other manufacturing sectors, possibly driven by delayed business spending and supply chain pre-emptive ordering. The episode then turns to the complex and slow-moving process of refunding tariffs imposed under President Trump’s administration, highlighting how consumers may not see refunds for over a decade due to legal hurdles and bureaucratic delays. Small businesses like Cards Against Humanity are taking proactive steps to return money to customers, while larger companies face potential class action lawsuits. The episode also covers the collapse of Spirit Airlines due to soaring fuel costs, the strained state of the U.S. tax system with a massive unmeasured tax gap, and a quirky new business model—Not A Wedding Crasher—where people pay to attend weddings. Finally, it debunks conspiracy theories about manipulated economic data, citing research that shows public trust in statistics has significant economic value. The tone is cautiously optimistic, emphasizing systemic challenges but also innovation and accountability. Key takeaways include: 1) Manufacturing demand remains strong despite tariffs and war-related disruptions, likely due to delayed spending and supply chain prep; 2) Tariff refunds may take over a decade to process due to legal complexity and cost; 3) Companies that proactively return money to customers can strengthen long-term loyalty; 4) States face a hidden fiscal crisis due to unmeasured tax gaps, which could be addressed with better data and staffing; 5) Public trust in official statistics is economically valuable, with $25 in benefits for every $1 spent on data integrity.

Key Takeaways
1

Manufacturing demand remains strong despite tariffs and global instability, driven by delayed business spending and supply chain prep.

2

Tariff refunds may not reach consumers until 2036 due to legal complexity and bureaucratic delays.

3

Proactively returning money to customers can build long-term loyalty and reduce legal risk.

4

States face a hidden fiscal crisis from unmeasured tax gaps, which could be addressed with better data and staffing.

5

Public trust in official economic data generates significant economic value—$25 for every $1 spent on data integrity.

Chapters
0:00
3 min

The State of U.S. Manufacturing Amid Global Turmoil

I do think that some of this is delayed demand that might have been sitting on the table.

Highlight
2:50
6 min

The Long Road to Tariff Refunds

It might simply be that they get a credit for a dollar and they would have to spend 51 cents in a stamp to be able to get their dollar.

Highlight
8:20
6 min

Business Responses to Tariff Refunds

Some companies like Cards Against Humanity are proactively returning money to customers, using refunds as a loyalty-building tool. Others face legal pressure, but experts predict most cases will settle rather than go to trial.

14:10
5 min

Jet Fuel Crisis and the Future of Air Travel

Rising jet fuel prices due to Middle East conflicts are grounding flights globally. While the U.S. is better positioned due to domestic production, demand is expected to drop, with travelers shifting to driving—increasing gasoline demand.

19:10
5 min

GameStop’s Bold $50 Billion Offer to Buy eBay

GameStop’s unsolicited bid to acquire eBay is seen as a risky, symbolic move. Experts question its strategic value, citing lack of synergy, but suggest it may be a way to monetize its stock before a potential bubble burst.

High-Impact Quotes
The marginal value of public trust in official statistics is about $25 for every $1 spent on the BLS's budget.
NBER Study27:09
Viral: 95.0
Out of every $8 that should be paid, only seven are.
Josh Goodman21:28
Viral: 90.0
You can't manage what you don't measure.
Josh Goodman22:05
Viral: 88.0
Speakers

Host

Kyle Rizdahl

Guests

Josh GoodmanJustin HoKristen SchwabElizabeth RovalCarla JavierJeff SajakKarina Besson
Topics Discussed
Public Trust in Economic Data92%Tariff Refund Process and Legal Challenges90%State Tax Gaps and Fiscal Policy88%U.S. Manufacturing Resilience85%Small Business Innovation and Ethics78%Jet Fuel Shortages and Air Travel75%Consumer Behavior and Experience Economy70%Corporate Mergers and Acquisitions Strategy65%
People & Brands

President Trump

person

6xNegative

GameStop

brand

5xNeutral

eBay

brand

5xNeutral

Cards Against Humanity

brand

4xPositive

Internal Revenue Service

organization

4xNeutral

FEMA

organization

4xNegative

Not A Wedding Crasher

brand

4xPositive

Spirit Airlines

brand

3xNegative

Pew Charitable Trusts

organization

3xPositive

Bureau of Labor Statistics

organization

3xPositive

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