Dave Fortman: Focusing on the Song Above All Else
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In this episode of the Master Your Mix podcast, host Mike Indovina sits down with renowned producer and musician Dave Fortman, known for his work with Evanescence, Slipknot, Godsmack, and Ugly Kid Joe. Fortman emphasizes that the foundation of every great record is a strong song, and he dedicates much of his energy to pre-production—rewriting arrangements, trimming excessive sections, and restructuring songs before entering the studio. He shares real-world examples, such as transforming Evanescence’s 'Bathory Sainthood' from a six-minute epic into a tighter, more impactful track, earning him the nickname 'the song butcher.' Fortman also discusses his meticulous guitar tone process, using dual mics neck-and-neck on amps, baffled cabinets, and multiple amp setups to achieve rich, non-muddy heavy tones. He advocates for studying modern music and reference tracks to stay current, while still appreciating the emotional power of real drum recordings. Ultimately, he believes a great mix is one where the song moves the listener, and the mix is complete when no further changes feel necessary.
Prioritize song structure and pre-production over technical perfection—fix the song before the mix.
Use reference tracks to calibrate your ears and avoid common mixing pitfalls like over-EQing or excessive compression.
Achieve heavy guitar tones without muddiness by focusing on mid-range frequencies, proper mic placement, and dual amp setups.
Study modern music and production trends to stay relevant, even if you prefer vintage techniques.
The best mixes are emotionally impactful—when you can't find anything to fix, the mix is done.
Introduction to the Podcast and Carve Audio
Mike Indovina introduces the Master Your Mix podcast and promotes his plugin company, Carve Audio, highlighting its tools like Smashburger, Busboy, Slapshot, and Gas Can amp designed to speed up the mixing process and improve workflow.
Dave Fortman’s Career and Musical Roots
Fortman shares his journey from being a guitarist in Ugly Kid Joe to becoming a top-tier producer, working with major acts like Evanescence, Slipknot, and Godsmack. He reflects on his early days recording bands on a four-track recorder and building a reputation through word-of-mouth.
The Power of Pre-Production: Shaping the Song
“I literally took a song that might have been six minutes long, cut half of it out and cut it down to being something completely different.”
Navigating Artist Egos and Creative Feedback
“Don't go 100% with it. Just small spoonfuls, you know? And sometimes just don't even do it at all.”
Guitar Tone Secrets: Avoiding Muddy Low End
“There's no comb filtering. Nothing drives me nuts than getting a mix and it's got comb filtering on the guitar.”
“I know what I'm done when I'm finished picking on the damn thing.”
“I literally took a song that might have been six minutes long, cut half of it out and cut it down to being something completely different.”
“The mix is done when you listen to it and there's nothing you want to fix.”
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Dave Fortman
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Mike Indovina
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Evanescence
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Slipknot
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Ugly Kid Joe
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Mudvayne
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Godsmack
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Carve Audio
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Jay Baumgartner
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Andy Wallace
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