Ep 608 - WrestleMania (feat. Cody Rhodes)

Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast1h 12mApril 13, 2026

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In this high-energy episode of Matt and Shane's Secret Podcast, guest Cody Rhodes dives deep into his journey from wrestling outsider to WWE's American Nightmare, with candid reflections on his roots, family legacy, and the emotional weight of WrestleMania. The conversation begins with personal anecdotes about his father’s working-class upbringing in East Austin, his connection to the 'Big Fish' story, and the myth-making that surrounded his family’s past. Cody shares how a pivotal moment watching The Undertaker’s return at WrestleMania reignited his passion for wrestling, leading to his own transformation into a full-blown performer. He discusses the intense training regimen, the evolution of WWE’s Performance Center, and the raw vulnerability of bombing on stage—both in comedy and wrestling. The episode also explores Cody’s complex relationship with Pat McAfee, whose insertion into the WrestleMania main event feels like a surreal celebrity crossover, drawing comparisons to legends like Liberace and Mr. T. Amid the banter, Cody reveals his deep love for college football, particularly Notre Dame and UGA, and the cultural significance of teams like the Bulldogs and the Eagles. The episode culminates in a hilarious, over-the-top promo where LaMare (a recurring character) is tasked with defending the Notre Dame title against McAfee, blending absurdity with genuine emotion. Throughout, the tone is warm, self-aware, and rich with storytelling—celebrating the magic of performance, legacy, and the power of belief in the face of doubt.

Key Takeaways
1

Your legacy isn’t just inherited—it’s earned through performance and passion, not just bloodline.

2

The most powerful moments in entertainment come from authenticity, not perfection.

3

Bombs on stage are inevitable—what matters is how you own them and keep going.

4

Wrestling’s magic lies in the suspension of disbelief, where real emotion fuels fictional drama.

5

Team loyalty and fan culture (like college football) are built on shared identity and emotional investment.

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Chapters
0:00
10 min

The Roots of a Legend: Cody’s Family, East Austin, and the Big Fish Effect

When my dad passed away and we were at his service, it is literally like the scene in Big Fish where you realize, man, a lot of this stuff was real?

Highlight
10:00
10 min

The WrestleMania Awakening: How The Undertaker Changed Everything

He literally looked over to me and I think I missed the moment a little bit because I think he was looking for a little bit of, I got you kid, sheriffs leveled the playing field here.

Highlight
20:00
10 min

The Training Ground: From OVW to the Performance Center

Cody contrasts his early days in OVW with today’s WWE Performance Center, discussing the evolution of athlete development, the importance of agility, recovery, and the role of legends like Shawn Michaels as coaches. He reflects on how the system now supports the modern NIL athlete.

30:00
10 min

The Philly Love: How the Eagles Became a Second Home

Cody shares his deepening connection to the Philadelphia Eagles, from a random game day experience to being treated like a native son. He recounts the surreal moment of being invited into the locker room and how the city’s embrace changed his identity as a performer.

40:00
10 min

The Art of the Bomb: Embracing Failure and the Power of the Flub

I almost threw a can of liquid death just the other night. I flubbed the last like two words of my closer. I just like fucked up the clothes and flubbed the words.

Highlight
High-Impact Quotes
When my dad passed away and we were at his service, it is literally like the scene in Big Fish where you realize, man, a lot of this stuff was real?
Cody Rhodes4:00
Viral: 92.0
You think you're gonna walk out unharmed? You think you're gonna walk out fully together? No. He's threatening life-altering injuries.
LaMare (voiced by Cody Rhodes)68:12
Viral: 90.0
He literally looked over to me and I think I missed the moment a little bit because I think he was looking for a little bit of, I got you kid, sheriffs leveled the playing field here.
Cody Rhodes18:25
Viral: 88.0
Speakers

Hosts

MattShane

Guest

Cody Rhodes
Topics Discussed
WrestleMania95%Legacy and Identity90%Performance and Failure88%College Football Culture85%Family and Myth82%Wrestling History80%Celebrity in Wrestling78%Comedy and Improvisation75%
People & Brands

Cody Rhodes

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120xPositive

Matt

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85xPositive

Shane

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80xPositive

LaMare

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45xPositive

WWE

organization

35xPositive

Pat McAfee

person

30xMixed

The Undertaker

person

25xPositive

Notre Dame

other

22xPositive

University of Georgia

other

20xPositive

Randy Orton

person

20xPositive

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